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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Network slowdown due to CFS
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 18:25:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071001162507.GA22791@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071001084356.GA1866@ff.dom.local>


* Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl> wrote:

> BTW, it looks like risky to criticise sched_yield too much: some 
> people can misinterpret such discussions and stop using this at all, 
> even where it's right.

Really, i have never seen a _single_ mainstream app where the use of 
sched_yield() was the right choice.

Fortunately, the sched_yield() API is already one of the most rarely 
used scheduler functionalities, so it does not really matter. [ In my 
experience a Linux scheduler is stabilizing pretty well when the 
discussion shifts to yield behavior, because that shows that everything 
else is pretty much fine ;-) ]

But, because you assert it that it's risky to "criticise sched_yield() 
too much", you sure must know at least one real example where it's right 
to use it (and cite the line and code where it's used, with 
specificity)?

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-01 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-26  8:52 Network slowdown due to CFS Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-26  9:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26  9:47   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26 10:08     ` Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-26 10:18       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26 10:20 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-26 10:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-26 10:48   ` Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-26 11:21     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26 11:29       ` Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-26 12:00         ` David Schwartz
2007-09-26 13:31           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26 15:40             ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-09-26 15:46             ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-09-27  9:30             ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-27  9:46               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-27 12:27                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-27 13:31                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-27 14:42                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-28  6:10                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-01  8:43                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-01 16:25                           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-10-01 16:49                             ` David Schwartz
2007-10-01 17:31                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-01 18:23                                 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-02  6:06                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02  6:47                                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-03  8:02                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03  8:16                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-03  8:56                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03  9:10                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-03  9:50                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 10:55                                               ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-10-03 10:58                                                 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-10-03 11:20                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 11:22                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-03 11:40                                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 11:56                                                   ` yield Ingo Molnar
2007-10-03 12:16                                                     ` yield Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-07  7:18                                               ` Network slowdown due to CFS Ingo Molnar
2007-10-04  5:33                                             ` Casey Dahlin
2007-10-02  6:08                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02  6:26                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02  6:46                                   ` yield API Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02 11:50                                     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-10-02 15:24                                       ` Douglas McNaught
2007-10-02 21:57                                     ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-12-12 22:39                                     ` Jesper Juhl
2007-12-13  4:43                                       ` Kyle Moffett
2007-12-13 20:10                                         ` David Schwartz
2007-10-01 19:53                               ` Network slowdown due to CFS Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-01 22:17                                 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-01 22:35                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-01 22:44                                     ` David Schwartz
2007-10-01 22:55                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-02 15:37                                         ` David Schwartz
2007-10-03  7:15                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 11:31                               ` Helge Hafting
2007-10-04  0:31                               ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-01 16:55                             ` Chris Friesen
2007-10-01 17:09                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-01 17:45                                 ` Chris Friesen
2007-10-01 19:09                                   ` iperf yield usage Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02  9:03                             ` Network slowdown due to CFS Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-02 13:39                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-02  9:26                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-27  9:49         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-27 10:54           ` Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-27 10:56             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-27 11:12               ` Martin Michlmayr
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2007-10-01 22:27 Hubert Tonneau

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