From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>
Cc: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: iperf yield usage
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:09:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071001190932.GA9302@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4701323F.3000500@nortel.com>
* Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com> wrote:
> >See the background and answers to that in:
> >
> > http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/9/19/357
> > http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/9/19/328
> >
> >there's plenty of recourse possible to all possible kinds of apps.
> >Tune the sysctl flag in one direction or another, depending on which
> >behavior the app is expecting.
>
> Yeah, I read those threads.
>
> It seems like the fundamental source of the disconnect is that the
> tasks used to be sorted by priority (thus making it easy to bump a
> yielding task to the end of that priority level) while now they're
> organized by time (making it harder to do anything priority-based).
> Do I have that right?
not really - the old yield implementation in essence gave the task a
time hit too, because we rotated through tasks based on timeslices. But
the old one requeued yield-ing tasks to the 'active array', and the
decision whether a task is in the active or in the expired array was a
totally stohastic, load-dependent thing. As a result, certain tasks,
under certain workloads saw a "stronger" yield, other tasks saw a
"weaker" yield. (The reason for that implementation was simple: yield
was (and is) unimportant and it was implemented in the most
straightforward way that caused no overhead anywhere else in the
scheduler.)
( and to keep perspective it's also important to correct the subject
line here: it's not about "network slowdown" - nothing in networking
slowed down in any way - it was that iperf used yield in a horrible
way. I changed the subject line to reflect that. )
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-01 19:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-26 8:52 Network slowdown due to CFS Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-26 9:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26 9:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26 10:08 ` Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-26 10:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26 10:20 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-26 10:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-26 10:48 ` Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-26 11:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26 11:29 ` Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-26 12:00 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-26 13:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26 15:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-09-26 15:46 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-09-27 9:30 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-27 9:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-27 12:27 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-27 13:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-27 14:42 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-28 6:10 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-01 8:43 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-01 16:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-01 16:49 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-01 17:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-01 18:23 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-02 6:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02 6:47 ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-03 8:02 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-03 8:56 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 9:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-03 9:50 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 10:55 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-10-03 10:58 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-10-03 11:20 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 11:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-03 11:40 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 11:56 ` yield Ingo Molnar
2007-10-03 12:16 ` yield Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-07 7:18 ` Network slowdown due to CFS Ingo Molnar
2007-10-04 5:33 ` Casey Dahlin
2007-10-02 6:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02 6:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02 6:46 ` yield API Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02 11:50 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-10-02 15:24 ` Douglas McNaught
2007-10-02 21:57 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-12-12 22:39 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-12-13 4:43 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-12-13 20:10 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-01 19:53 ` Network slowdown due to CFS Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-01 22:17 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-01 22:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-01 22:44 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-01 22:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-02 15:37 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-03 7:15 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 11:31 ` Helge Hafting
2007-10-04 0:31 ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-01 16:55 ` Chris Friesen
2007-10-01 17:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-01 17:45 ` Chris Friesen
2007-10-01 19:09 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-10-02 9:03 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-02 13:39 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-02 9:26 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-27 9:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-27 10:54 ` Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-27 10:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-27 11:12 ` Martin Michlmayr
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