From: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network slowdown due to CFS
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:56:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071003085636.GC1726@ff.dom.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071003081613.GA29904@elte.hu>
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 10:16:13AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl> wrote:
>
> > > firstly, there's no notion of "timeslices" in CFS. (in CFS tasks
> > > "earn" a right to the CPU, and that "right" is not sliced in the
> > > traditional sense) But we tried a conceptually similar thing [...]
> >
> > >From kernel/sched_fair.c:
> >
> > "/*
> > * Targeted preemption latency for CPU-bound tasks:
> > * (default: 20ms, units: nanoseconds)
> > *
> > * NOTE: this latency value is not the same as the concept of
> > * 'timeslice length' - timeslices in CFS are of variable length.
> > * (to see the precise effective timeslice length of your workload,
> > * run vmstat and monitor the context-switches field)
> > ..."
> >
> > So, no notion of something, which are(!) of variable length, and which
> > precise effective timeslice lenght can be seen in nanoseconds? (But
> > not timeslice!)
>
> You should really read and understand the code you are arguing about :-/
Maybe you could help me with better comments? IMHO, it would be enough
to warn new timeslices have different meaning, or stop to use this
term at all. (Btw, in -rc8-mm2 I see new sched_slice() function which
seems to return... time.)
>
> In the 2.6.22 scheduler, there was a p->time_slice per task variable
> that could be manipulated. (Note, in 2.6.22's sched_yield() did not
> manipulate p->time_slice.)
>
> sysctl_sched_latency on the other hand is not something that is per task
> (it is global) so there is no pending timeslice to be "cleared" as it
> has been suggested naively.
But, there is this "something", very similar and very misleading, you
count eg. in check_preempt_curr_fair to find if time is over, and I
think this could be similar enough to what David Schwartz wanted to
use in his idea, and you didn't care to explain why it's so different?
Jarek P.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-03 8:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-26 8:52 Network slowdown due to CFS Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-26 9:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26 9:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26 10:08 ` Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-26 10:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26 10:20 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-26 10:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-26 10:48 ` Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-26 11:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26 11:29 ` Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-26 12:00 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-26 13:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-26 15:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-09-26 15:46 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-09-27 9:30 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-27 9:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-27 12:27 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-27 13:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-27 14:42 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-28 6:10 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-01 8:43 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-01 16:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-01 16:49 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-01 17:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-01 18:23 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-02 6:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02 6:47 ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-03 8:02 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-03 8:56 ` Jarek Poplawski [this message]
2007-10-03 9:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-03 9:50 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 10:55 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-10-03 10:58 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-10-03 11:20 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 11:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-03 11:40 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 11:56 ` yield Ingo Molnar
2007-10-03 12:16 ` yield Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-07 7:18 ` Network slowdown due to CFS Ingo Molnar
2007-10-04 5:33 ` Casey Dahlin
2007-10-02 6:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02 6:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02 6:46 ` yield API Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02 11:50 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-10-02 15:24 ` Douglas McNaught
2007-10-02 21:57 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-12-12 22:39 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-12-13 4:43 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-12-13 20:10 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-01 19:53 ` Network slowdown due to CFS Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-01 22:17 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-01 22:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-01 22:44 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-01 22:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-02 15:37 ` David Schwartz
2007-10-03 7:15 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-03 11:31 ` Helge Hafting
2007-10-04 0:31 ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-01 16:55 ` Chris Friesen
2007-10-01 17:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-01 17:45 ` Chris Friesen
2007-10-01 19:09 ` iperf yield usage Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02 9:03 ` Network slowdown due to CFS Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-02 13:39 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-10-02 9:26 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-27 9:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-27 10:54 ` Martin Michlmayr
2007-09-27 10:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-27 11:12 ` Martin Michlmayr
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2007-10-01 22:27 Hubert Tonneau
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