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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>,
	Oleg Verych <olecom@flower.upol.cz>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>,
	Medve Emilian-EMMEDVE1 <Emilian.Medve@freescale.com>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" + "`Subject:' usage"
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:11:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071007211154.GA27685@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071007191309.GS10199@1wt.eu>


* Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu> wrote:

> I would say that while I'm not particularly fond of flashy colors 
> everywhere, I think that being able to use colors to indicate 
> particular actions in progress or conditions can be a good thing. RAID 
> errors, devices disabled due to command-line parameters, and general 
> anomalies which can cause a hang or panic a few line laters are worth 
> coloring. And I don't believe in userland's help here, because for 
> that type of messages, the indication should be returned immediately. 
> For instance, anyone who has experienced read errors on and IDE disk 
> knows that it can literally take hours/days to boot, after displaying 
> thousands of messages. Here, having the ability to see that no IRQ was 
> assigned or something like this could help.

Exactly. I'm also testing older distros quite regularly with new kernels 
and there's it's useful to have an impression of a kernel's output at a 
glance. Adding _any_ userspace change (even if i wanted to do it, which 
i dont) is out of question. So these are distinct, well-defined usecases 
that nobody has brought any coherent argument against yet. VGA isnt 
going away anytime soon, certainly not on my testboxes.

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-07 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710062005190.5969@fbirervta.pbzchgretzou.qr>
2007-10-06 19:13 ` [PATCH 1/2] Colored kernel output (run2) Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-08 13:28   ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-10-06 19:13 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Jan Engelhardt
     [not found] ` <20071006195105.GE22435@flower.upol.cz>
     [not found]   ` <20071006194820.GA30579@elte.hu>
2007-10-06 21:03     ` [PATCH 0/2] " Oleg Verych
2007-10-06 21:03       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-06 21:55         ` About summary in the subject (Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)) Oleg Verych
2007-10-07  6:07       ` [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2) Ingo Molnar
2007-10-07 11:10         ` "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" + "`Subject:' usage" Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 14:15           ` NAK nettiquete (was Re: "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-07 15:12             ` Alan Cox
2007-10-07 15:29               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 16:23                 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-07 23:09                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 15:46               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-07 18:11               ` NAK nettiquete (was " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-10-07 16:12           ` "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" + "`Subject:' usage" Ingo Molnar
2007-10-07 18:47             ` Rene Herman
2007-10-07 18:58               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 19:27                 ` Rene Herman
2007-10-07 20:02                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 19:13               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-10-07 19:47                 ` Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 21:23                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-07 21:38                     ` Alan Cox
2007-10-12 13:42                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-08  3:23                   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-10-08 19:27                     ` initramfs: coloring in userspace, "[PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 19:53                 ` "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" + "`Subject:' usage" Rene Herman
2007-10-07 19:56                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 20:00                   ` Rene Herman
2007-10-07 20:04                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 20:06                       ` Rene Herman
2007-10-07 20:50                       ` tty UI (Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)) Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 20:43                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 22:18                           ` syntax highlighting, emacs ([PATCH " Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 22:11                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-08  0:29                               ` Ken Moffat
2007-10-08  3:29                   ` "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" + "`Subject:' usage" Willy Tarreau
2007-10-07 21:11                 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-10-07 23:02                   ` Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 23:01                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 23:33                       ` Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 22:40                 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-10-07 23:10                   ` Rene Herman
2007-10-07 23:20                     ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-10-07 23:33                     ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-10-07 23:15                   ` Alan Cox
2007-10-07 16:37           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-12 13:16           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-12 14:57             ` Oleg Verych

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