From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Cc: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Subject: Re: RFC: reviewer's statement of oversight
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:52:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071008185225.GK2902@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <470A7847.8070502@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 08:34:47PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote:
> Randy Dunlap wrote:
> > On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:01:49 -0700 Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> >> Tested-by is more valuable than acked-by, because its empirical.
> >> Acked-by generally means "I don't generally object to the idea of the
> >> patch, but may not have read beyond the changelog". Tested-by implies
> >> "I did something that exercised the patch, and it didn't explode" -
> >> that's on par with an actual review (ideally all patches would be both
> >> tested and reviewed).
> >
> > but Tested-by: doesn't have to involve any "actually looking at/reading
> > the patch." Right?
> >
> > IOW, the patch could be ugly as sin but it works...
>
> Tested-by translated into German and back into English: "Works for me,
> test methods not specified."
>
> So, putting a Tested-by into the changelog is only useful if the
> necessary testing is rather simple (i.e. "fixed the bug which I was
> always able to reproduce before") or if the tester is known to have
> performed rigorous and sufficiently broad tests.
Well, you can still include those test-method details in the body of the
message in addition to adding the "Tested-by:".
Does "Tested-by" just mean they ran some relevant test on the final
version of the patch? The really hard part is often the initial work
required to find a good reproduceable test case, capture the right error
report, or bisect to the right commit. I think that also counts as
"testing". And it'd be nice to have a tag for those sorts of
contributions, partly just as another way to ackowledge them.
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-08 18:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-08 17:24 RFC: reviewer's statement of oversight Jonathan Corbet
2007-10-08 17:31 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-10-08 17:37 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-08 17:45 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-08 18:01 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-08 18:06 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-08 18:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-08 18:34 ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-08 18:52 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2007-10-08 19:04 ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-08 19:26 ` Scott Preece
2007-10-08 20:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-10-09 2:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2007-10-09 6:11 ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-09 6:27 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-09 6:39 ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-09 6:47 ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-08 18:26 ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-08 18:40 ` Roland Dreier
2007-10-08 19:35 ` Scott Preece
2007-10-08 20:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-10-08 21:38 ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-08 22:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-10-08 23:20 ` Oleg Verych
2007-10-08 22:43 ` Jonathan Corbet
2007-10-08 23:06 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-09 3:34 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-10-08 23:30 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-09 10:28 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-08 23:42 ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-09 0:05 ` Neil Brown
2007-10-09 16:49 ` Jonathan Corbet
2007-10-09 17:25 ` Roland Dreier
2007-10-10 0:06 ` David Chinner
2007-10-15 0:27 ` Neil Brown
2007-10-09 17:44 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-15 0:35 ` Neil Brown
2007-10-15 14:32 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-10 13:40 ` Scott Preece
2007-10-08 18:40 ` Mark Gross
2007-10-08 18:53 ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-08 19:05 ` Al Viro
2007-10-08 19:08 ` Jonathan Corbet
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