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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Subject: Re: RFC: reviewer's statement of oversight
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 00:18:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200710090018.40061.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071008213852.GA31713@thunk.org>

On Monday, 8 October 2007 23:38, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 01:33:38PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > Uhm, no.  There is no reason an "unimportant" person couldn't review a 
> > patch, and therefore perform a potentially highly valuable service to 
> > the maintainer.
> > 
> > None of these are indicative of the authority of the person acking, 
> > reviewing, testing, or nacking.  That's only as good as the trust in the 
> > person signing.
> 
> I would tend to agree.  Right now I think the problem is that we are
> getting too little reviews, not enough.  And someone who reviews
> patches, even if unknown, could be building up expertise that
> eventually would make them a valued developer, even while they are
> doing us a service.   
> 
> The concern that I suspect some people have is what if this gets
> abused by people who don't really bother to do a full review of a
> patch before they ack it.  We could ask reviewers to include a URL to
> an LKML archive of their review, to make it easier to find a review of
> a patch so later on people can judge how effective they their review
> was.  Unfortunately, this would be an added burden for the regular
> reviewers, so I doubt this would be well accepted as a practice.  My
> suggestion is to not worry about this for now, and see how well it
> works out in practice.  If we start getting half a dozen or more
> Reviewed-by: where the patch is pretty clearly not getting adequately
> reviewed, or where someone is obviously abusing the system, and social
> pressures aren't working, we can try to figure out then how we want to
> address that problem then.  Let's not make the process too complicated
> unless we know it's necessary.  Premature complexity is almost as bad
> as premature optimization....

I agree.

Greetings,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-08 22:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-08 17:24 RFC: reviewer's statement of oversight Jonathan Corbet
2007-10-08 17:31 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-10-08 17:37 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-08 17:45   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-08 18:01     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-08 18:06       ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-08 18:16         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-08 18:34         ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-08 18:52           ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-08 19:04             ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-08 19:26             ` Scott Preece
2007-10-08 20:16               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-10-09  2:07                 ` Steven Rostedt
2007-10-09  6:11                   ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-09  6:27                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-09  6:39                       ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-09  6:47                         ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-08 18:26     ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-08 18:40     ` Roland Dreier
2007-10-08 19:35     ` Scott Preece
2007-10-08 20:33     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-10-08 21:38       ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-08 22:18         ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-10-08 23:20         ` Oleg Verych
2007-10-08 22:43   ` Jonathan Corbet
2007-10-08 23:06     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-09  3:34       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-10-08 23:30     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-09 10:28       ` Alan Cox
2007-10-08 23:42     ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-09  0:05     ` Neil Brown
2007-10-09 16:49       ` Jonathan Corbet
2007-10-09 17:25         ` Roland Dreier
2007-10-10  0:06         ` David Chinner
2007-10-15  0:27           ` Neil Brown
2007-10-09 17:44       ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-15  0:35         ` Neil Brown
2007-10-15 14:32           ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-10 13:40     ` Scott Preece
2007-10-08 18:40 ` Mark Gross
2007-10-08 18:53   ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-08 19:05     ` Al Viro
2007-10-08 19:08       ` Jonathan Corbet

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