From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/11] maps3: add /proc/kpagecount and /proc/kpageflags interfaces
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:35:39 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071016003538.GC19691@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1192491297.6118.129.camel@localhost>
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 04:34:57PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 18:11 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > > Could we just have /proc/kpagereferenced? Is there a legitimate need
> > > for other flags to be visible?
> >
> > Referenced, dirty, uptodate, lru, active, slab, writeback, reclaim,
> > and buddy all look like they might be interesting to me from the point
> > of view of watching what's happening in the VM graphically in
> > real-time.
>
> This is true, but it forces a lot of logic from the kernel to be run in
> userspace to figure out what is going on. Looking at mainline today:
>
> #define PG_reclaim 17 /* To be reclaimed asap */
> ...
> #define PG_readahead PG_reclaim /* Reminder to do async read-ahead */
>
> All of a sudden, to figure out which flag it actually is, we need to
> have all of the logic that the kernel does.
>
> Does this establish a fixed user<->kernel ABI that will keep us from
> doing this in the future:
>
> -#define PG_slab 7 /* slab debug (Suparna wants this) */
> +#define PG_slab 14 /* slab debug (Suparna wants this) */
>
> Or, even something like this:
>
> -#define PageSlab(page) test_bit(PG_slab, &(page)->flags)
> +#define PageSlab(page) (!PageLRU(page) && !PageHighmem(page))
Yeah, there are a bunch of flags that aren't mutually exclusive and we
could probably recover a few.
> If we actually had several (or even still one file) that exposed this
> state, independent of the actual content of page->flags, I think we'd be
> better off. I think that's the difference between a fun, super-useful
> debugging feature and one that can stay in mainline and have
> applications stay using it (without breaking) for a long time.
>
> The flags you listed are things that I would imagine will always exist,
> logically. But, we might not always have a specific page flag for pages
> under writeback or in the buddy list for that matter. PG_buddy isn't
> that old. Perhaps that would be better abstracted to something like
> page_in_main_allocator().
Perhaps we need something like:
flags = page->flags;
userflags =
FLAG_BIT(USER_REFERENCED, flags & PG_referenced) |
...
etc. for the flags we want to export. This will let us change to
FLAG_BIT(USER_SLAB, PageSlab(page)) |
if we make a virtual slab bit.
And it shows up in grep.
Unfortunately, i386 test_bit is an asm inline and not a macro so we
can't hope for the compiler to fold up a bunch of identity bit
mappings for us.
--
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-16 0:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-15 22:25 [PATCH 0/11] maps3: pagemap monitoring v3 Matt Mackall
2007-10-15 22:25 ` [PATCH 1/11] maps3: add proportional set size accounting in smaps Matt Mackall
2007-10-15 23:36 ` David Rientjes
2007-10-16 0:18 ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-16 2:24 ` David Rientjes
2007-10-15 22:25 ` [PATCH 2/11] maps3: introduce task_size_of for all arches Matt Mackall
2007-10-15 23:45 ` David Rientjes
2007-10-16 0:36 ` Dave Hansen
2007-10-16 2:26 ` David Rientjes
2007-10-16 17:18 ` maps3: introduce task_size_of for all arches (updated v4) Dave Hansen
2007-10-16 17:25 ` David Rientjes
2007-10-15 22:26 ` [PATCH 3/11] maps3: move is_swap_pte Matt Mackall
2007-10-15 22:26 ` [PATCH 4/11] maps3: introduce a generic page walker Matt Mackall
2007-10-15 22:40 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-15 23:05 ` Dave Hansen
2007-10-15 23:20 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-15 23:30 ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-16 4:58 ` David Rientjes
2007-10-15 22:26 ` [PATCH 5/11] maps3: use pagewalker in clear_refs and smaps Matt Mackall
2007-10-16 5:03 ` David Rientjes
2007-10-15 22:26 ` [PATCH 6/11] maps3: simplify interdependence of maps " Matt Mackall
2007-10-15 22:26 ` [PATCH 7/11] maps3: move clear_refs code to task_mmu.c Matt Mackall
2007-10-16 5:11 ` David Rientjes
2007-10-15 22:26 ` [PATCH 8/11] maps3: regroup task_mmu by interface Matt Mackall
2007-10-15 22:26 ` [PATCH 9/11] maps3: add /proc/pid/pagemap interface Matt Mackall
2007-10-15 22:26 ` [PATCH 10/11] maps3: add /proc/kpagecount and /proc/kpageflags interfaces Matt Mackall
2007-10-15 22:48 ` Dave Hansen
2007-10-15 23:11 ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-15 23:34 ` Dave Hansen
2007-10-16 0:35 ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2007-10-16 0:49 ` Dave Hansen
2007-10-16 0:58 ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-16 1:07 ` Dave Hansen
2007-10-15 22:26 ` [PATCH 11/11] maps3: make page monitoring /proc file optional Matt Mackall
2007-10-15 22:49 ` Dave Hansen
2007-10-15 22:51 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-16 0:03 ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-16 0:20 ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-16 5:25 ` David Rientjes
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