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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RESEND] file operations: release can race with read/write?
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:16:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071017121656.484646a5.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adaodexh9uz.fsf@cisco.com>

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:30:44 -0700 Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com> wrote:

> [Resending, directly to a couple likely suspects this time, in the
> hope of getting a reply... thanks]
> 
> I have a question about the synchronization of file_operations: is it
> intended that the .release method of a file can be called while a
> .read or .write method is still running for that file?
> 
> The reason I ask is that I've seen a crash in practice that appears to
> be caused by this race, and I'm wondering whether the correct fix is
> to add synchronization between .read/.write and .release to the
> driver's methods (this is a character device), or whether the core
> kernel is supposed to provide this synchronization.
> 
> I've written a quick test case that seems to show this happen in
> practice, and reading the code in fs/open.c and fs/read_write.c I see
> no reason why this race can't happen: sys_read() and sys_write() just
> do fget_light(), which will not increment the file's reference count
> on the fast path, so a racing sys_close() from another thread could do
> the final fput() that ends up calling the file's .release method
> before the read or write has finished.

After pthread_create()'s clone() you should have files->count==2, so
fget_light() will do the full atomic_inc_not_zero() thing?

> I think the actual file data structure is OK, because it is freed with
> RCU, so it won't be freed too soon.  But a .release method may free
> other driver-internal state that is still in use because of this race.
> 
> It seems that we wouldn't want to give up the fget_light()
> optimization in read/write, so probably the right place to handle this
> is in the driver.  But on the other hand, this is kind of a subtle
> booby trap that has been laid, and maybe there is a clever way to
> handle this.  So I would appreciate guidance from smarter people.
> 
> Thanks,
>   Roland
> 
> 
> BTW, here's the test case -- it seems pretty conclusive to me, but
> maybe I'm all wet and misunderstanding things.  There's a kernel
> module that just prints "Write raced with close?" if it sees the race,
> and a userspace driver that just spawns two threads, one that does
> open/close in a loop and one that does write in a loop.  Running this
> on my machine, I see several race messages get printed.
> 

That seems pretty conclusive.  I haven't actually thought about this yet -
I just wanted to clarify that fget_light() thing.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-17 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-16 18:53 file operations: release can race with read/write? Roland Dreier
2007-10-17 18:30 ` [RESEND] " Roland Dreier
2007-10-17 19:16   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-10-17 22:06     ` Roland Dreier
2007-10-17 19:27   ` Al Viro
2007-10-17 19:33   ` Al Viro
2007-10-17 22:10     ` Roland Dreier

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