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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: bhalevy@panasas.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [bug] block subsystem related crash with latest -git
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:28:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071018122852.GA5063@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071018.050327.59654383.davem@davemloft.net>

On Thu, Oct 18 2007, David Miller wrote:
> From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:55:17 +0200
> 
> > Things have progressed a lot since, see my recent posting based on
> > Davem's proposal. Will post another patch soonish, that is also
> > tested.
> 
> One core issue here is that we need to decide whether this thing to be
> iterated like an array or like a linked list.  It's trying to be both.
> 
> If we decide upon a looping construct for consumers and stick to it,
> we'll be in much better shape than we are now and bugs will be eaiser
> to spot.  It would be so much simpler to audit if all we saw in the
> consumers were things like:
> 
> 	while (sg) {
> 		do_stuff(sg);
> 		sg = sg_next(sg);
> 	}
> 
> I would suggest that we just get it over with and convert the whole
> tree now rather than trying to do this kind of thing in stages.
> Because then we can say that ever scatterlist creator has to set
> the "end" bit and therefore you use well established patterns
> for scatterlist iteration such as "traverse sg_next() until NULL"
> as shown above.

The above should work now, PROVIDED that the end has been marked
properly. I have added some helpers to init an sglist (or sg entry).
You can still use

        for_each_sg()

and pass in the number of entries, that'll work even with an end marker.
So, it does both.

> I also noticed that there is the issue of on-stack and embedded
> scatterlist users.  We'll need some sort of "DECLARE_SCATTERLIST"
> and a "scatterlist_init()" thing so that we can keep DEBUG_SG
> working even in those cases.  But for all I know Jens could be
> working on that already :-)

Heh, got some of it covered! The stack usage is generally just converted
to either use sg_init_one() if we can, or sg_init_table(). Adding some
soft of DECLARE_SCATTERLIST() sounds like a good idea, though. I'll take
patches :-)

> The only other real option if we don't convert the whole tree now to
> the "end" marker stuff, is to enforce that every scatterlist iterator
> only traverse the number of entries there were told are in the one
> given to them.

Driver that do all their own sg management typically still use a manual
loop over the number of entries they know are there. I didn't change
those, and the original sg chaining didn't convert those either. Some
manual labor is required in utilizing chained sg lists, unless you are
part of a subsystem (like SCSI) that allocates and inits themf or you.
So I still think that baby steps are a good idea - only convert things
that matter. Leave the rest to janitors or others willing to dive in.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-18 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-17 15:46 [bug] block subsystem related crash with latest -git Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 15:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 16:32   ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 16:59   ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 17:08     ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 17:21       ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 17:29         ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 17:34           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 17:36             ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 17:45             ` [bug] ata " Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 17:53               ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 17:55                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 17:58                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 18:37                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 19:04                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 19:08                     ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 19:14                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 19:17                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 19:25                           ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 19:25                         ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 19:09                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 19:28                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 19:35                       ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 19:45                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 19:56                           ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 20:06                             ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 20:24                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 20:31                                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 21:11                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 23:00                                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-10-18  1:07                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18  1:14                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18  1:19                                         ` David Miller
2007-10-18  1:36                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18  1:49                                             ` David Miller
2007-10-18  3:44                                             ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18  4:01                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18  4:05                                                 ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18  4:14                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18  4:18                                                   ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18  4:31                                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18  4:41                                                       ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18  4:53                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18  7:05                                                       ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 13:13                                                         ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18 13:23                                                           ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 13:32                                                             ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18 13:34                                                               ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 13:59                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18 14:04                                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18  4:45                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18  4:54                                                     ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18  5:09                                                       ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18  4:20                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18  5:25                                                 ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18  5:34                                                   ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18  5:45                                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18  7:09                                                       ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18  7:30                                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18  8:21                                           ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 11:55                                             ` David Miller
2007-10-18 11:57                                               ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 12:05                                                 ` David Miller
2007-10-18 12:09                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 12:15                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 12:36                                                       ` David Miller
2007-10-18 12:39                                                         ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 12:58                                                       ` Benny Halevy
2007-10-18 13:56                                                         ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 14:05                                                           ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 14:16                                                             ` Benny Halevy
2007-10-18 14:38                                                               ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 14:58                                                                 ` Olof Johansson
2007-10-18 15:25                                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 12:58                                                       ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 13:32                                                         ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 13:49                                                           ` Benny Halevy
2007-10-18 13:55                                                             ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 13:51                                                           ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18 13:58                                                             ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 14:03                                                               ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18 14:10                                                               ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18 14:13                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18 14:14                                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 16:55                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18 17:01                                               ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 17:10                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 17:10                                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-18 17:14                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-19  8:59                                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-10-18 19:20                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-17 20:51                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 19:49                         ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 20:05                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 20:10                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18  7:07                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-18  7:10                           ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18  8:22                           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18  8:32                             ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18  8:38                               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18  8:51                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18  9:01                               ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]                                 ` <bd58e4af0710180210tcc0d31ep9d05a0f2e9d6df29@mail.gmail.com>
2007-10-18  9:14                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18  9:17                                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18  9:32                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18  9:41                                     ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 10:04                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18 10:10                                         ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 10:13                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-18 10:16                                             ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 10:17                                               ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 10:49                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-18 10:50                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18 10:56                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 10:42                                           ` [PATCH] " Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18 10:54                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-18 11:02                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18 11:40                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-18 14:52                                             ` Olof Johansson
2007-10-20 11:55                               ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-10-18 11:03                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-18 11:05                             ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 19:42                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 19:55                         ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 18:08               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 18:13                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 17:56           ` [bug] block " Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 18:02             ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 18:13               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 18:20                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 18:58                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 19:03                     ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 19:15                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 18:02             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 18:14               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 20:15           ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-10-17 17:30         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 17:31           ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 17:28       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-17 17:52       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 18:00         ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 18:18           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 18:22             ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 10:52               ` Benny Halevy
2007-10-18 10:55                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-18 12:03                   ` David Miller
2007-10-18 12:28                     ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2007-10-17 18:22             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 18:40               ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-17 17:11     ` Ingo Molnar

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