From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, drepper@redhat.com
Subject: Re: OOM notifications
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:18:57 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071018171857.409255de@bree.surriel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4717CAEC.50203@keyaccess.nl>
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:06:52 +0200
Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl> wrote:
> They don't -- that's why I asked if you need both scenario's active
> at the same time. SIGDANGER would just be SIGPLEASEFREEALLYOUCAN with
> the operator deciding through setting the level at which point
> applications get it.
>
> Or put differently; what's the additional value of notifying an
> application that the system is about to go balistic when you've
> already asked it to free all it could earlier? SIGSEEDAMNITITOLDYOUSO?
The first threshold - "we are about to swap" - means the application
frees memory that it can. Eg. free()d memory that glibc has not yet
given back to the kernel, or JVM running the garbage collector, or ...
The second threshold - "we are out of memory" - means that the first
approach has failed and the system needs to do something else. On an
embedded system, I would expect some application to exit or maybe
restart itself.
--
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-18 21:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-18 20:25 OOM notifications Marcelo Tosatti
2007-10-18 20:38 ` Rene Herman
2007-10-18 20:52 ` Rik van Riel
2007-10-18 21:06 ` Rene Herman
2007-10-18 21:18 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2007-10-18 22:01 ` Rene Herman
2007-10-18 22:10 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-10-19 5:15 ` Chris Friesen
2007-10-19 10:17 ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-19 15:18 ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-10-19 16:58 ` Chris Friesen
2007-10-18 22:16 ` Rene Herman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-18 20:15 Marcelo Tosatti
2007-10-26 21:02 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-26 21:05 ` Martin Bligh
2007-10-26 21:11 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-26 21:35 ` Rik van Riel
2007-10-26 21:59 ` Martin Bligh
2007-10-26 22:30 ` Rik van Riel
2007-10-28 21:16 ` Balbir Singh
2007-10-30 14:57 ` Jan Kara
2007-10-30 15:23 ` Rik van Riel
2007-10-30 15:55 ` Jan Kara
2007-10-30 17:31 ` Rik van Riel
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