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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen.c.accardi@intel.com>
Cc: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	greg@kroah.com, pcihpd-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Fix two PEIe hotplug issues
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:49:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071018174925.GB4927@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071018100614.435fe88c.kristen.c.accardi@intel.com>

On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 10:06:14AM -0700, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
> No, it actually does violate the spec.  Feel free to read it yourself.
> We are not supposed to do Native PCIe without first successfully executing
> OSC.  Period.  If you do, you are violating the spec.

To be fair, we have violated the spec before in order to get crappy
hardware or to work around crappy ACPI implementations.
acpi_sleep=s3_bios for example violates the spec, but yet it is the
only way to get certain laptops to suspend/resume correctly.  

The question to ask is whether violating the spec will lead to (a) a
potential system hang/crash, (b) data corruption, (c) physical harm to
the device/laptop.

Regards,

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-18 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-18  2:57 [PATCH 0/3] Fix two PEIe hotplug issues Mark Lord
2007-10-18  2:59 ` [PATCH 1/3] pciehp_handle_preinserted_card Mark Lord
2007-10-18  3:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] pciehp_split_pcie_init Mark Lord
2007-10-18  3:02 ` [PATCH 3/3] pciehp_resume_reinit_hardware Mark Lord
2007-10-18  3:03 ` [PATCH 1/3] pciehp_handle_preinserted_card Mark Lord
2007-10-18  3:04 ` [PATCH 2/3] pciehp_split_pcie_init Mark Lord
2007-10-18  3:05 ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix two PEIe hotplug issues Mark Lord
2007-10-18  3:09 ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18 16:13   ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-10-18 17:06     ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18 17:06       ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-10-18 17:49         ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2007-10-18 17:56           ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-10-18 21:11             ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18 21:26           ` Mark Lord
2007-10-18  3:32 ` [PATCH 1/3] pciehp: hotplug: deal with pre-inserted ExpressCards Mark Lord
2007-10-18  3:33   ` [PATCH 2/3] pciehp: hotplug: split out hardware init from pcie_init() Mark Lord
2007-10-18  3:34     ` [PATCH 3/3] pciehp: hotplug: reinit hotplug h/w on resume from suspend Mark Lord
2007-10-18 11:15   ` [Pcihpd-discuss] [PATCH 1/3] pciehp: hotplug: deal with pre-inserted ExpressCards Kenji Kaneshige
2007-10-18 13:31     ` Mark Lord
2007-10-19  2:38       ` Kenji Kaneshige
2007-10-19  3:09         ` Mark Lord
2007-10-19  3:27           ` Kenji Kaneshige
2007-11-18  0:27 ` [PATCH] Fix PCIe double initialization bug Mark Lord
2007-11-18 12:23   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-18 14:20     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-18 14:37       ` Mark Lord

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