From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: forcing write-back from FS - again
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:55:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071021135526.57db7519.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <471BB45D.8070509@nokia.com>
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:19:41 +0300 Artem Bityutskiy <Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com> wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> some time ago we were talking about doing write-back from inside a file-system
> (http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=119097117713616&w=2). You said that I'm not
> the only person who needs this, because the same thing is needed for delayed
> allocation.
>
> The problem is that if we initiate write-back from prepare_write() and we are
> having a dirty page lock, we deadlock in write_cache_pages() which tries to
> lock the same page.
>
> You suggested to enhance struct writeback_control and put page that should be
> skipped.
>
> ...
>
> but it does not dot actually work, because if we have two processes forcing
> write-back from write_page(), they will mutually deadlock (A waits in
> write_cache_pages() on a page B has locked, B waits on inode or page A has locked).
Yeah, I was just thinking that as I read this ;)
> So this way is not ok, do you have any other ideas?
>
> We could mark page clean temporarily before doing write-back, and mark it dirty
> again, but this seems to be inefficient (although I'm not sure, need to dig
> these functions deeper, but they _seem_ to traverse the radix tree and change
> tags, so marking one page dirty may need to change many tags, but again, I did
> not really dig tis yet).
>
> I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks!
We could just skip locked pages altogether in writeback. Perhaps in
WB_SYNC_NONE mode, or perhaps add a new flag in writeback_control to select
this behaviour.
It _should_ be the case that the number of locked-and-dirty pages which
writeback encounters is very small, so skipping locked pages during
writeback-for-memory-flushing won't have any significant effect. The first
step should be to add a new /proc/vmstat field to count these pages and
then do broad testing (especially on blocksize<pagesize filesystems) to
confirm the theory.
We'll still need to synchronously lock the page in
writeback-for-data-integrity mode though.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-21 20:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-21 20:19 forcing write-back from FS - again Artem Bityutskiy
2007-10-21 20:55 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-10-22 8:52 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2007-10-22 9:05 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-22 9:38 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2007-10-22 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-22 10:04 ` Artem Bityutskiy
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