From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Thomas Fricaccia <thomas_fricacci@yahoo.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
LSM ML <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
Crispin Cowan <crispin@crispincowan.com>
Subject: Re: LSM conversion to static interface
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:13:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071022171326.GA30317@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200710221700.l9MH0klg006152@sapphire.spiritone.com>
On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 10:00:46AM -0700, Thomas Fricaccia wrote:
> To possibly save bandwidth, I'll also respond to another of Greg's points:
>
> "Greg KH" <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
> > Any "customer" using a security model other than provided by their Linux
> > distributor instantly voided all support from that distro by doing that.
>
> This isn't necessarily true. In fact, I don't think it's even _remotely_
> likely to be typical.
But that is completly true _today_ and is the way that the "enterprise"
distros work. Do you have any evidence of it not being the case?
> Security is big business, as is compliance with regulatory law. Large
> enterprise customers are NOT going to either void their system support
> contracts, or place themselves in jeopardy of failing a SOX audit.
I agree, that is why customers do not load other random security modules
in their kernel today, and why they will not do so tomorrow. So,
because of that, this whole point about compliance with regulatory law
seems kind of moot :)
Again, LSM isn't going away at all, this is just one config option for
allowing LSM to work as a module that is changing. If a customer
demands that this feature come back, I'm sure that the big distros will
be the first to push for it. But currently, given that there are no
known external LSMs being used by customers demanding support, I don't
see what the big issue here really is.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-22 17:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-22 17:00 LSM conversion to static interface Thomas Fricaccia
2007-10-22 17:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-22 17:13 ` Greg KH [this message]
2007-10-23 5:14 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-23 5:32 ` david
2007-10-23 11:38 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-23 5:53 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2007-10-23 7:12 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-23 8:17 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-10-24 3:41 ` Greg KH
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-25 11:33 Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-26 10:40 ` Samir Bellabes
2007-10-22 2:24 Thomas Fricaccia
2007-10-22 3:59 ` Greg KH
2007-10-22 17:47 ` Avi Kivity
2007-10-23 16:05 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-23 16:52 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-10-22 10:07 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-22 16:10 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-22 16:50 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-22 16:56 ` Greg KH
[not found] <167451.96128.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
2007-10-18 2:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-19 20:26 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-10-19 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-20 11:05 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-20 22:57 ` James Morris
2007-10-21 22:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-23 9:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 5:44 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2007-10-23 8:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 9:14 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-10-23 9:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 15:20 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-23 15:28 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 15:34 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-25 10:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-19 21:07 ` James Morris
2007-10-18 1:34 Thomas Fricaccia
2007-10-18 2:03 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-18 2:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18 3:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
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