From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Simon Arlott <simon@fire.lp0.eu>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>,
Thomas Fricaccia <thomas_fricacci@yahoo.com>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Crispin Cowan <crispin@crispincowan.com>,
Giacomo Catenazzi <cate@debian.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:31:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071024223124.GI30533@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <471F8AC5.9080300@simon.arlott.org.uk>
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 07:11:17PM +0100, Simon Arlott wrote:
> On 24/10/07 13:55, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 12:50:29PM +0100, Simon Arlott wrote:
> >> I currently have an LSM that only handles permissions for socket_bind
> >> and socket_listen, I load it and then "capability" as secondary on
> >> boot - but now I can't because the LSM framework is now just the LS
> >> framework.
> >>
> >> Why can't this "static LSM" change be a Kconfig option?
> >> (I don't want to have to maintain my own reverted copy of security/,
> >> or compile this into the kernel because then I can't ever modify and
> >> reload it without rebooting.)
> >
> > Let's start with the more important questions:
> >
> > Did you submit your LSM for inclusion into the kernel?
>
> No, because the interface for configuring it would be rejected... I have
> a /proc file which I write a binary configuration file to. This works
> fine for me but it would take a lot of work to write a proper interface
> - which I'm still not sure how to do*.
>...
Generally, the goal is to get external modules included into the kernel.
You want to be able to have this functionality and you do not want to
use SELinux for it.
But instead of working on getting your code into the kernel you are
requesting that an API making it easier for you to maintain it
externally comes back.
There are other points in this thread that might or might not warrant
making LSM modular again, but even though it might sound harsh breaking
external modules and thereby making people aware that their code should
get into the kernel is IMHO a positive point.
> Simon Arlott
cu
Adrian
--
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of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-10-18 2:18 ` LSM conversion to static interface Linus Torvalds
2007-10-19 20:26 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-10-19 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-20 11:05 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-20 22:57 ` James Morris
2007-10-21 22:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-23 4:09 ` LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch] Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-23 4:56 ` James Morris
2007-10-23 4:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-23 5:16 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-23 9:10 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 9:13 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-23 9:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 0:31 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-24 0:32 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-24 5:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-24 11:50 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 12:55 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-24 18:11 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 18:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 18:59 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 19:04 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 21:02 ` David P. Quigley
2007-10-24 21:37 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-24 21:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 22:02 ` David P. Quigley
2007-10-24 23:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-25 1:50 ` david
2007-10-25 3:50 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-10-24 21:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 21:58 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-24 22:04 ` David P. Quigley
2007-10-25 11:38 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 20:18 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-24 20:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 21:29 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-24 22:31 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2007-10-24 22:58 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-24 23:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-24 23:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-25 0:41 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-25 2:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-30 3:37 ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-10-25 1:03 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-25 0:23 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-25 0:35 ` Ray Lee
2007-10-25 1:26 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-25 1:41 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-25 2:11 ` david
2007-10-25 18:17 ` Ray Lee
2007-10-25 22:21 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-26 3:45 ` david
2007-10-26 5:44 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-27 18:29 ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-28 18:48 ` Hua Zhong
2007-10-28 19:05 ` Hua Zhong
2007-10-28 22:08 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-28 22:50 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-26 20:42 ` serge
2007-10-28 23:55 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-29 5:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-25 9:19 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-10-25 16:04 ` Ray Lee
2007-10-25 17:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-30 9:41 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-10-25 1:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-27 18:22 ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-28 19:42 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28 20:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 3:23 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Toshiharu Harada
2007-10-30 8:40 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 8:50 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-30 9:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 9:21 ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-10-25 11:44 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-25 23:09 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-26 2:56 ` Greg KH
2007-10-26 7:09 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-26 15:54 ` Greg KH
2007-10-26 9:46 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-26 15:58 ` Greg KH
2007-10-26 16:32 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-27 14:07 ` eradicating out of tree modules (was: Linux Security *Module* Framework) Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28 1:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-26 23:26 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Adrian Bunk
2007-10-27 14:47 ` eradicating out of tree modules (was: : Linux Security *Module* Framework) Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-27 17:31 ` eradicating out of tree modules Stefan Richter
2007-10-28 0:55 ` eradicating out of tree modules (was: : Linux Security *Module* Framework) Adrian Bunk
2007-10-28 9:25 ` eradicating out of tree modules Stefan Richter
2007-10-28 12:01 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28 14:37 ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-28 14:59 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-28 16:55 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28 18:51 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28 19:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-30 0:29 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-30 13:11 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-10-30 13:19 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-10-30 15:30 ` Greg KH
2007-10-29 23:51 ` Out-of-tree modules [was: Linux Security *Module* Framework] Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 0:46 ` Lee Revell
2007-10-30 1:19 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-27 14:08 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface Tetsuo Handa
2007-11-05 6:42 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-23 9:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 5:44 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2007-10-23 8:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 9:14 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-10-23 9:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 15:20 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-23 15:28 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 15:34 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-25 10:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-19 21:07 ` James Morris
2007-10-22 1:12 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-29 10:01 Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Rob Meijer
2007-10-29 10:24 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-29 13:32 ` Peter Dolding
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-29 19:04 Rob Meijer
2007-10-29 19:41 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-30 5:13 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-30 18:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 19:14 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-30 19:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 23:38 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-31 0:16 ` david
2007-10-31 2:21 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-31 3:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-31 5:08 ` david
2007-10-31 6:43 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-31 9:03 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-31 10:10 ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-11-01 2:04 ` Peter Dolding
2007-11-01 2:20 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-11-01 2:51 ` Peter Dolding
2007-11-01 7:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-01 11:49 ` David Newall
2007-11-04 1:28 ` Peter Dolding
2007-11-05 6:56 ` Andrew Morgan
2007-11-05 13:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-29 20:27 ` Casey Schaufler
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