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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/10] Change table chaining layout
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:28:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071026172838.GD8875@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0710260742140.30120@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Fri, Oct 26 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> >
> > Linus Torvalds writes:
> > 
> > > Nobody should *ever* walk the list to find the length. Does anybody really 
> > > do that? Yes, we pass the thing down, but do people *need* it?
> > 
> > Yes, I need it for devices that use the macintosh DBDMA
> > (descriptor-based DMA) hardware.  The DBDMA hardware reads an array of
> > descriptors from system RAM, so I need to allocate an array and fill
> > it in with DBDMA command blocks (and then dma-map it and point the
> > device at it).
> 
> Yes, for allocation purposes you'd need the size ahead of time, agreed. 
> Otherwise you have to walk the list twice.

Do you really allocate a fresh table for every command, or just a max
sized one at init?

> > Maybe the drivers for devices that use DBDMA are now buggy.  Certainly
> > filling in the array of DBDMA command blocks involves walking the
> > list, but it would extremely useful to know how much to allocate
> > before we start filling them in.  So we at least need an upper bound
> > on the number of "real" entries, even if we don't have the exact
> > number.
> 
> Hmm. Depending on where you do this, and if this is some block-layer 
> specific driver/code (rather than necessarily a generic SG thing), you do 
> have the req->nr_phys_segments thing which should be that for you (ie the 
> SG list may have _fewer_ requests in it in case some of those entries got 
> squashed together due to be contiguous).
> 
> But yeah, I don't think it would be wrong at all to have a
> 
> 	struct scatterlist_head {
> 		unsigned int entries;
> 		unsigned int flags;	/* ? */
> 		struct scatterlist *sg;
> 	};
> 
> which would be passed down at higher levels.

That'd be fine with me as well, but I really don't think that a lot of
people really do need the sg count when you can just loop over the table
until it returns NULL.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-26 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-22 18:10 [PATCH 00/10] SG updates Jens Axboe
2007-10-22 18:10 ` [PATCH 01/10] [SG] Add helpers for manipulating SG entries Jens Axboe
2007-10-22 18:10 ` [PATCH 02/10] [SG] Update block layer to use sg helpers Jens Axboe
2007-10-23  5:13   ` Heiko Carstens
2007-10-23  5:16     ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-23  5:42       ` [PATCH] fix ll_rw_blk.c build on s390 Heiko Carstens
2007-10-23  5:44       ` [PATCH] net: fix xfrm build - missing scatterlist.h include Heiko Carstens
2007-10-23  7:28         ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-23 14:32   ` [PATCH 02/10] [SG] Update block layer to use sg helpers John Stoffel
2007-10-22 18:10 ` [PATCH 03/10] [SG] Update crypto/ to " Jens Axboe
2007-10-22 18:10 ` [PATCH 04/10] [SG] Update drivers to use " Jens Axboe
2007-10-23  6:28   ` Heiko Carstens
2007-10-23  7:14     ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-23  7:16       ` Heiko Carstens
2007-10-22 18:10 ` [PATCH 05/10] [SG] Update fs/ " Jens Axboe
2007-10-22 18:11 ` [PATCH 06/10] [SG] Update net/ " Jens Axboe
2007-10-23 10:44   ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-10-23 10:45     ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-22 18:11 ` [PATCH 07/10] [SG] Update swiotlb " Jens Axboe
2007-10-22 18:11 ` [PATCH 08/10] [SG] Update arch/ " Jens Axboe
2007-10-22 21:10   ` Benny Halevy
2007-10-23  7:26     ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-22 18:11 ` [PATCH 09/10] Change table chaining layout Jens Axboe
2007-10-22 19:39   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-10-22 19:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-22 19:52       ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-22 20:16       ` Alan Cox
2007-10-22 20:38         ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-22 20:44         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-22 21:43           ` Alan Cox
2007-10-22 21:47             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-23  0:07               ` David Miller
2007-10-23  7:18               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-10-23  9:29               ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-10-23  9:41                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-23  9:50                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-10-23  9:55                     ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-23 10:23                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2007-10-23 10:29                         ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-23 15:22                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-24  8:05                           ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-24  9:03                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-10-24  9:12                               ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-24 13:35                                 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-10-24 13:38                                   ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-24 13:45                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2007-10-24 15:16                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-25  8:40                           ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-25  9:11                             ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-25 11:54                               ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-26  0:03                                 ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-25 15:40                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-25 16:03                               ` Benny Halevy
2007-10-26  5:01                               ` Paul Mackerras
2007-10-26 14:52                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-26 17:28                                   ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2007-11-05  6:11                                   ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] sg_ring instead of scatterlist chaining Rusty Russell
2007-11-05  6:15                                     ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] sg_ring instead of scatterlist chaining in virtio Rusty Russell
2007-11-05 16:40                                     ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] sg_ring instead of scatterlist chaining Randy Dunlap
2007-10-23 10:33                   ` [PATCH 09/10] Change table chaining layout Ingo Molnar
2007-10-23 10:56                     ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-23 11:27                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-23 19:23                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-10-23 21:46                           ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-24  6:56                           ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-22 21:16         ` Benny Halevy
2007-10-22 21:21         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-22 21:47           ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-22 22:52             ` Alan Cox
2007-10-22 23:46               ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-23  0:11                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-23  4:09   ` powerpc: Fix fallout from sg_page() changes Olof Johansson
2007-10-23  4:31     ` IB/ehca: Fix sg_page() fallout Olof Johansson
2007-10-23  5:05       ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-23  5:54         ` Olof Johansson
2007-10-23  7:12           ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-23  7:13     ` powerpc: Fix fallout from sg_page() changes Jens Axboe
2007-10-23 17:08   ` [PATCH 09/10] Change table chaining layout Boaz Harrosh
2007-10-23 18:33     ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-23 19:56       ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-23 20:20         ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-23 20:57           ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-23 21:44             ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-22 18:11 ` [PATCH 10/10] Add CONFIG_DEBUG_SG sg validation Jens Axboe
2007-10-23 14:48 ` [PATCH][SG] fix typo in ps3rom.c Arnd Bergmann

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