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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jikos@jikos.cz>,
	Gabriel C <nix.or.die@googlemail.com>,
	a.zummo@towertech.it,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	rtc-linux@googlegroups.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: BUG: lock held when returning to user space
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:46:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071027084646.434ccb4f.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1193498921.5648.68.camel@lappy>

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:28:41 +0200 Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:

> 
> On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 17:12 +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, Gabriel C wrote:
> > 
> > > I found that today in dmesg after booting current git ( 
> > > ec3b67c11df42362ccda81261d62829042f223f0 ) :
> > > ...
> > > [  592.752777]
> > > [  592.752781] ================================================
> > > [  592.753478] [ BUG: lock held when returning to user space! ]
> > > [  592.753880] ------------------------------------------------
> > > [  592.754262] hwclock/1452 is leaving the kernel with locks still held!
> > > [  592.754655] 1 lock held by hwclock/1452:
> > > [  592.755007]  #0:  (&rtc->char_lock){--..}, at: [<c02a7ebb>] rtc_dev_open+0x2e/0x7e                                        
> > 
> > Yes, this is because rtc keeps a char_lock mutex locked as long as the 
> > device is open, to avoid concurrent accessess.
> > 
> > It could be easily substituted by some counting -- setting and clearing 
> > bit in struct rtc_device instead of using char_lock, but doing this just 
> > to shut the lockdep off is questionable imho.
> > 
> > Peter, what is the preferred way to annotate these kinds of locking for 
> > lockdep to express that it is intended?
> 
> Not sure, I'd not thought that anyone would actually want to do this.
> I'm also not sure how I stand on this, I'd prefer to say: don't do this!
> 
> I think, in this case, the lock is associated with a kernel object that
> is properly cleaned up if the holding tasks gets a SIGKILL. But in
> general I'd like to see this kind of thing go away.
> 
> Now I could probably come up with an annotation to hide it, but what do
> other people think, Ingo, Linus, Andrew, do we want to keep kernel locks
> held over userspace?
> 

It's a fairly daft thing to do.  I think it'd be saner to teach rtc about
test_and_set_bit() personally..

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-27 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-27 14:19 BUG: lock held when returning to user space Gabriel C
2007-10-27 15:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-10-27 15:28   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-27 15:46     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-10-28 11:12       ` Jiri Kosina
2007-10-29 12:20         ` Alessandro Zummo
2007-10-27 16:35     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-27 22:47     ` Jiri Kosina
2007-10-29 12:20       ` [rtc-linux] " Alessandro Zummo
2007-10-27 15:47   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-27 16:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-27 17:05       ` Arjan van de Ven
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-03-12 15:45 Frank Munzert
2008-03-12 16:29 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-03-12 21:40 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-03-13 15:43   ` Daniel Walker
2008-03-13 17:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-13 17:56       ` Daniel Walker
2008-03-13 16:49 J.C. Pizarro

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