From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758266AbXJ2SlV (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:41:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753311AbXJ2SlN (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:41:13 -0400 Received: from netops-testserver-3-out.sgi.com ([192.48.171.28]:52163 "EHLO relay.sgi.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752496AbXJ2SlM (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:41:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:41:09 -0700 From: Paul Jackson To: Lee Schermerhorn Cc: rientjes@google.com, clameter@sgi.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, ak@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] cpusets: add interleave_over_allowed option Message-Id: <20071029114109.46285026.pj@sgi.com> In-Reply-To: <1193670617.5035.38.camel@localhost> References: <20071025185506.8c373aa8.pj@sgi.com> <1193412644.5032.13.camel@localhost> <20071026120037.7b95a136.pj@sgi.com> <1193433239.5032.95.camel@localhost> <1193434278.5032.106.camel@localhost> <1193670617.5035.38.camel@localhost> Organization: SGI X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.4 (GTK+ 2.8.3; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Lee wrote: > Maybe it's just me, but I think it's pretty presumptuous to think we can > infer the intent of the application from the nodemask w/o additional > flags such as Christoph proposed [cpuset relative]--especially for > subsets of the cpuset. E.g., the application could intend the nodemask > to specify memories within a certain distance of a physical resource, > such as where a particular IO adapter or set thereof attach to the > platform. Well, yes, we can't presume to know whether some application can move or not. But our kernel work is not presuming that. It's providing mechanisms useful for moving apps. The people using this decide what and when and if to move. For example, the particular customers (HPC) I focus on for my job don't move jobs because they don't want to take the transient performance hit that would come from blowing out all their memory caches. I'm guessing that David's situation involves something closer what you see with a shared web hosting service, running jobs that are very independent of hardware particulars. But in any case, we (the kernel) are just providing the mechanisms. If they don't fit ones needs, don't use them ;). -- I won't rest till it's the best ... Programmer, Linux Scalability Paul Jackson 1.925.600.0401