From: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
To: Tony Jones <tonyj@suse.de>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
chrisw@sous-sol.org, viro@ftp.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH] audit: clear thread flag for new children
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:04:31 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200710291804.31784.sgrubb@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071029172058.GA8433@suse.de>
On Monday 29 October 2007 01:20:58 pm Tony Jones wrote:
> > The problem is that removing that flag makes the children unauditable in
> > the future. The only place that flag gets set is during fork.
>
> I don't see this.
If the child does not have the TIF_SYSCALL_AUDIT flag, it never goes into
audit_syscall_entry. It becomes unauditable.
> The case that would be undesirable would be for a task to have an audit
> context but to not have the thread flag enabled.
That would just be a small allocation of memory that will be returned when the
process exits. From an auditing PoV, something that is undesirable is the
inability to audit a process that you want to audit.
> > Unless I'm missing something, to make all children auditable again would
> > mean stopping all processes and or'ing that flag into all thread info
> > areas.
>
> I think you are. Or maybe the code was different two years ago so that the
> above made sense.
>
> In the above scenario, audit is disabled, a new child is forked, we bail
> early so there is no audit context (and now there is no flag in the thread
> area). Currently there is no way this task is ever going to be audited as
> there is no audit context.
So when audit is re-enabled, how do you make that task auditable?
> If this task forks a new child, at this point the value of audit enabled
> will determine if there should be a context allocated and it will allocate
> the TIF flag also.
In the new child, but not the parent.
> I don't see your stopping all processes scenario.
That is so you can walk the process table and "or" the bit in unconditionally.
All processes need to be auditable or you've got a security hole.
-Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-29 22:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-26 20:42 [PATCH] audit: clear thread flag for new children Tony Jones
2007-10-26 22:42 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-27 14:21 ` Steve Grubb
2007-10-29 17:20 ` Tony Jones
2007-10-29 22:04 ` Steve Grubb [this message]
2007-10-29 23:15 ` Tony Jones
2007-11-01 14:33 ` Steve Grubb
2007-11-01 17:23 ` Tony Jones
2007-11-01 18:34 ` Steve Grubb
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