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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Cc: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>,
	rientjes@google.com, clameter@sgi.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] cpusets: add interleave_over_allowed option
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:08:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200710292208.30033.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071029123558.fb077ca9.pj@sgi.com>

On Monday 29 October 2007 20:35:58 Paul Jackson wrote:
> Lee wrote:
> > 2.  As this thread progresses, you've discussed relaxing the requirement
> > that applications pass a valid subset of mems_allowed.  I.e., something
> > that was illegal becomes legal.  An API change, I think.  But, a
> > backward compatible one, so that's OK, right? :-)
> 
> The more I have stared at this, the more certain I've become that we
> need to make the mbind/mempolicy calls modal -- the default mode
> continues to interpret node numbers and masks just as these calls do
> now, and the alternative mode provides the so called "Choice B",
> which takes node numbers and masks as if the task owned the entire
> system, and then the kernel internally and automatically scrunches
> those masks down to whatever happens to be the current cpuset of
> the task.

So the user space asks for 8 nodes because it knows the machine
has that many from /sys and it only gets 4 if a cpuset says so? That's
just bad semantics. And is not likely to make the user programs happy.

I don't think you'll get around to teaching user space (or rather libnuma)
about cpusets and let it handle it.

>From the libnuma perspective the machine size would be essentially 
current cpuset size. 

On the syscall level I don't think it makes much sense to change though.

The alternative would be to throw out the complete cpuset concept and go for 
virtual nodes inside containers with virtualized /sys.

-Andi



  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-29 21:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-25 22:54 [patch 1/2] cpusets: extract mmarray loading from update_nodemask David Rientjes
2007-10-25 22:54 ` [patch 2/2] cpusets: add interleave_over_allowed option David Rientjes
2007-10-25 23:37   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-25 23:56     ` David Rientjes
2007-10-26  0:28       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-26  1:55         ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-26  2:11           ` David Rientjes
2007-10-26  2:29             ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-26  2:45               ` David Rientjes
2007-10-26  3:14                 ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-26  3:58                   ` David Rientjes
2007-10-26  4:34                     ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-26 15:37                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-26 17:04                       ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-26 17:28                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-26 20:21                         ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-10-26 20:25                           ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-26 20:33                             ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-10-26 15:30             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-26 18:46               ` David Rientjes
2007-10-26 19:00                 ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-26 20:45                   ` David Rientjes
2007-10-26 21:05                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-26 21:08                       ` David Rientjes
2007-10-26 21:12                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-26 21:15                           ` David Rientjes
2007-10-26 21:13                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-26 21:17                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-26 21:26                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-26 21:37                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-29 15:00                             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-29 17:33                               ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-29 17:46                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-29 20:35                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-26 21:18                       ` David Rientjes
2007-10-26 21:31                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-26 21:39                           ` David Rientjes
2007-10-27  1:07                             ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-27  1:26                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-27  2:41                                 ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-27  2:50                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-27  5:16                                     ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-27  6:07                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-27  8:36                                         ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-27 17:47                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-27 20:59                                             ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-27 17:50                                   ` David Rientjes
2007-10-27 23:19                                     ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-28 18:19                                       ` David Rientjes
2007-10-28 23:46                                         ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-29  1:04                                           ` David Rientjes
2007-10-29  4:27                                             ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-29  4:47                                               ` David Rientjes
2007-10-29  5:45                                                 ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-29  7:00                                                   ` David Rientjes
2007-10-29  7:26                                                     ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-30 22:53                                                       ` David Rientjes
2007-10-30 23:17                                                         ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-30 23:25                                                           ` David Rientjes
2007-10-31  0:03                                                             ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-31  0:05                                                             ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-29  7:15                                                 ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-30 23:12                                                   ` David Rientjes
2007-10-30 23:44                                                     ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-30 23:53                                                       ` David Rientjes
2007-10-31  0:29                                                         ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-29 16:54                                       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-29 19:40                                         ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-29 19:45                                         ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-29 19:57                                         ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-29 20:02                                         ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-27 17:45                               ` David Rientjes
2007-10-27 21:22                                 ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-29 15:10                             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-29 18:41                               ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-29 19:01                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-30 23:17                                 ` David Rientjes
2007-10-31  0:03                                   ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-30 22:57                               ` David Rientjes
2007-10-30 23:46                                 ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-26 20:43                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-26 15:18         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-26 17:36           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-26 18:45           ` David Rientjes
2007-10-26 19:02             ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-27 19:16             ` David Rientjes
2007-10-29 16:23               ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-29 17:35                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-29 19:35                 ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-29 20:36                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-29 21:08                   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-10-29 22:48                     ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-30 19:47                     ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-30 20:20                       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-30 20:26                         ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-30 20:27                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-26  1:13   ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-26  1:30     ` David Rientjes

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