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From: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	lkml@davidb.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	drepper@redhat.com, mtk-manpages@gmx.net
Subject: Re: compat_sys_times() bogus until jiffies >= 0.
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:27:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200711081927.19394.vda.linux@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071107190714.9c404e28.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Thursday 08 November 2007 03:07, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:53:57 +1100 Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> wrote:
> > Andrew Morton writes:
> > 
> > > Given all this stuff, the return value from sys_times() doesn't seem a
> > > particularly useful or reliable kernel interface.
> > 
> > I think the best thing would be to ignore any error from copy_to_user
> > and always return the number of clock ticks.  We should call
> > force_successful_syscall_return, and glibc on x86 should be taught not
> > to interpret negative values as an error.
> 
> Changing glibc might be hard ;)
> 
> > POSIX doesn't require us to return an EFAULT error if the buf argument
> > is bogus.  If userspace does supply a bogus buf pointer, then either
> > it will dereference it itself and get a segfault, or it won't
> > dereference it, in which case it obviously didn't care about the
> > values we tried to put there.
> > 
> > If we try to return an error under some circumstances, then there is
> > at least one 32-bit value for the number of ticks that will cause
> > confusion.  We can either change that value (or values) to some other
> > value, which seems pretty bogus, or we can just decide not to return
> > any errors.  The latter seems to me to have no significant downside
> > and to be the simplest solution to the problem.
> 
> "the latter" is what my protopatch does isn't it?  It wraps at 0x7fffffff.
> It appears that glibc treats all of 0x80000000-0xffffffff as an error.

The best solution is to change the kernel to never return an error
and to change glibc to never treat return as an error.
--
vda

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-08 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-07 22:47 compat_sys_times() bogus until jiffies >= 0 David Brown
2007-11-07 23:28 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  0:18   ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  0:54     ` Andreas Schwab
2007-11-08  1:17       ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  1:53     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-08  2:09       ` David Miller
2007-11-08 10:20         ` Andreas Schwab
2007-11-08 14:42           ` Chris Friesen
2007-11-09 18:20             ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-12-20 11:36               ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-12-20 11:51                 ` David Miller
2007-12-22  0:42                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22  1:41                     ` David Miller
2007-12-22  1:45                       ` David Miller
2007-12-22  1:53                         ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22  4:36                           ` David Miller
2007-12-22 12:47                             ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22  1:49                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-08 19:25         ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-08  3:07       ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  3:13         ` David Miller
2007-11-08  5:15           ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-08  6:24             ` David Miller
2007-11-08  4:59         ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-08  5:20           ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  5:36             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-08  6:12               ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  6:25             ` David Miller
2007-11-08  7:09               ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  7:14                 ` David Miller
2007-11-08  8:53               ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-08  6:22           ` David Miller
2007-11-08 19:27         ` Denys Vlasenko [this message]
2007-11-08  0:50   ` David Miller
2007-11-08  1:13     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  6:00   ` David Brown

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