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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>, lguest <lguest@ozlabs.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dor Laor <dor.laor@qumranet.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio config_ops refactoring
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:24:28 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200711090924.28659.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4732774C.6020903@codemonkey.ws>

On Thursday 08 November 2007 13:41:16 Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Rusty Russell wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 November 2007 04:30:50 Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >> I would prefer that the virtio API not expose a little endian standard.
> >> I'm currently converting config->get() ops to ioreadXX depending on the
> >> size which already does the endianness conversion for me so this just
> >> messes things up.  I think it's better to let the backend deal with
> >> endianness since it's trivial to handle for both the PCI backend and the
> >> lguest backend (lguest doesn't need to do any endianness conversion).
> >
> > -ETOOMUCHMAGIC.  We should either expose all the XX interfaces (but this
> > isn't a high-speed interface, so let's not) or not "sometimes" convert
> > endianness. Getting surprises because a field happens to be packed into 4
> > bytes is counter-intuitive.
>
> Then I think it's necessary to expose the XX interfaces.  Otherwise, the
> backend has to deal with doing all register operations at a per-byte
> granularity which adds a whole lot of complexity on a per-device basis
> (as opposed to a little complexity once in the transport layer).

Huh?  Take a look at the drivers, this simply isn't true.  Do you have 
evidence that it will be true later?

Plus your code will be smaller doing a single writeb/readb loop than trying to 
do a switch statement.

> You really want to be able to rely on multi-byte atomic operations too
> when setting values.  Otherwise, you need another register to just to
> signal when it's okay for the device to examine any given register.

You already do; the status register fills this role.  For example, you can't 
tell what features a guest understands until it updates the status register.

Hope that clarifies,
Rusty.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-08 22:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-06 17:48 virtio config_ops refactoring Anthony Liguori
2007-11-06 22:57 ` Rusty Russell
     [not found] ` <200711070957.44165.rusty__13109.5125260346$1194390035$gmane$org@rustcorp.com.au>
2007-11-06 23:05   ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-07  6:04     ` [PATCH] " Rusty Russell
2007-11-07 17:30       ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-08  2:20         ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]         ` <200711081320.35844.rusty__6233.15023626692$1194488552$gmane$org@rustcorp.com.au>
2007-11-08  2:41           ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-08 22:24             ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2007-11-08 22:33               ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-08 22:47                 ` [Lguest] " ron minnich
2007-11-08 22:49                   ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                   ` <4733A6F5.3040202@qumranet.com>
2007-11-09  3:17                     ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-09 11:54                 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-09 23:45                   ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-10  7:58                     ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-10 22:08                       ` Anthony Liguori

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