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From: Stephane Eranian <eranian@hpl.hp.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
Cc: Philip Mucci <mucci@cs.utk.edu>,
	William Cohen <wcohen@redhat.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Perfmon <perfmon@napali.hpl.hp.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	perfmon2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	OSPAT devel <ospat-devel@cs.utk.edu>,
	papi list <ptools-perfapi@cs.utk.edu>,
	perfmon@napali.hpl.hp.com
Subject: Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:33:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071113213313.GD5747@frankl.hpl.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071113185924.GA22748@suse.de>

Greg,

On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 10:59:24AM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 10:47:45AM -0800, Philip Mucci wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Well, I can say the mood here at supercomputing'07 is pretty somber in 
> > regards to the latest exchange of messages regarding the perfmon patches. 
> 
> "somber"?
> 

I am the core developer of this and I am not as pessimistic as Phil. Yet I admit
Phil has been asking for this kind of kernel interface for a very very long time ;-<

> Why?
> 
> We (a number of the kernel developers) want to see the perfmon code make
> it into the kernel tree, unfortunatly, in the current state it is in,
> that's not going to happen.
> 
> Andi specified a way that this can happen, just refactor your patches
> into smaller bits that can be reviewed and applied.
> 

I think I understand your concerns. I will work on this. I think it is possible to
refactor. It will certainly be painful (for me), but I think it can be done within
some reasonable delay. Of course, it would be help if you could better qualify what
you mean by 'smaller'.

> If you, or anyone else has any questions about this, please let us know.
> So far, I have not seen any response to his message, so I'm guessing
> that the perfmon developers either are off working on this, or don't
> care.
> 

I will start working on this once I fix the tickless/hrtimer issues.

> And if they don't care, then yes, I agree with your "somber" feeling...
> 

I do care a lot actually. Believe me, I do spend a lot of effort and energy
on this project everyday, like many others around the world, and I intend for
it to succeed. We have reached a point in the development of processor hardware
where this kind of features is crucial and it is not just for HPC folks anymore.

-- 
-Stephane

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-13 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-07  0:34 [PATCH] fix up perfmon to build on -mm Greg KH
2007-11-07 10:34 ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-07 17:07   ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 13:42 ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-07 17:08   ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 17:33     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-07 17:41       ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 17:50     ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-07 17:47   ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 17:57     ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-07 19:53       ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 20:39         ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-08 15:27         ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-09 20:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-09 21:38   ` Greg KH
2007-11-10 20:32     ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 15:17       ` perfmon2 merge news Robert Richter
2007-11-13 15:35         ` [perfmon2] " William Cohen
2007-11-13 17:55           ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 18:33             ` [perfmon] " William Cohen
2007-11-13 21:13               ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 21:29                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 21:46                   ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 21:50                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 22:22                       ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 22:25                         ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 22:58                           ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14  2:07                             ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-14 13:09                               ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 14:24                                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-14 15:44                                   ` William Cohen
2007-11-14 16:13                                     ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 18:53                                     ` Philippe Elie
2007-11-14 19:15                                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-15  0:07                                   ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 18:47             ` Philip Mucci
2007-11-13 18:59               ` Greg KH
2007-11-13 20:07                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 20:14                   ` Greg KH
2007-11-13 20:36                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-14  0:28                     ` Philip Mucci
2007-11-14  1:52                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-16  9:18                         ` Philip Mucci
2007-11-16 15:15                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-16 16:00                             ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-16 16:28                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-16 17:13                                 ` William Cohen
2007-11-16 21:56                                   ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-16 17:36                                 ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-16 17:51                             ` dean gaudet
2007-11-17  0:29                               ` David Miller
2007-11-17  1:07                                 ` Greg KH
2007-11-16 20:16                             ` Philip Mucci
2007-11-17  0:15                             ` David Miller
     [not found]                             ` <1d7226b10711161713j675341b7wdb4f050c59a8be0a@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-17  1:25                               ` Greg KH
     [not found]                                 ` <1d7226b10711161748n39b7f195q796d85282ef66134@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-17  2:13                                   ` Greg KH
2007-11-14  7:24                   ` [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] " Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14  7:40                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 10:38                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-14 10:43                       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 11:00                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-14 11:12                           ` David Miller
2007-11-14 11:14                             ` David Miller
2007-11-14 11:44                             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-13 23:49                               ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 11:58                                 ` David Miller
2007-11-14  0:25                                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 21:30                                     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 10:17                                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 22:56                                         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-11-14 11:03                                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 11:52                               ` David Miller
2007-11-14 12:03                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 12:07                                   ` David Miller
2007-11-14  0:28                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 21:50                                     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 23:03                                       ` David Miller
2007-11-14 23:12                                         ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 23:21                                           ` David Miller
2007-11-15  1:11                                             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-15  1:27                                               ` David Miller
2007-11-15  2:34                                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-15  7:48                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-15  8:19                                                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-19 13:08                                                 ` David Miller
2007-11-19 20:53                                                   ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-20  0:55                                                     ` David Miller
2007-11-19 21:43                                                   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-19 22:48                                                     ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-20  0:53                                                       ` David Miller
2007-12-13 16:00                                                         ` Stephane Eranian
2007-12-14 19:12                                                           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-12-14 21:07                                                             ` Stephane Eranian
2007-12-15 15:54                                                               ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-11-15  8:29                                               ` [perfmon] " Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 13:51                               ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 11:39                           ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 11:52                             ` David Miller
2007-11-14 13:47                             ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 12:38                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-14 14:13                             ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 14:26                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-15  0:23                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 19:48                             ` David Miller
2007-11-15  4:20                             ` dean gaudet
2007-11-15  4:47                               ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-15  5:14                                 ` dean gaudet
2007-11-15  8:53                               ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-15 17:01                               ` [perfmon2] [perfmon] " Dan Terpstra
2007-11-13 21:33                 ` Stephane Eranian [this message]
2007-11-13 21:45                   ` [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] " Greg KH
2007-11-13 22:27               ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-13 20:42           ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 18:32         ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 22:29           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-16 18:25           ` PMC core internal API design Mathieu Desnoyers

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