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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Philip Mucci <mucci@cs.utk.edu>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>, Stephane Eranian <eranian@hpl.hp.com>,
	William Cohen <wcohen@redhat.com>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Perfmon <perfmon@napali.hpl.hp.com>,
	perfmon2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	papi list <ptools-perfapi@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] perfmon2 merge news
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:52:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071114015210.GA20365@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9FF72994-F55A-4B36-9EAA-CB1D2360A6F5@cs.utk.edu>

On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:28:52PM -0800, Philip Mucci wrote:
> I know you don't want to hear this, but we actually use all of the  
> features of perfmon, because a) we wanted to use the best methods  

That is hard to believe.

But let's go for it temporarily for the argument. 

Can you instead prioritize features.  What is most essential, what is 
important, what is just nice to have, what is rarely used? 

> Note that PAPI is just middleware. The tools built upon it are what  

Surely the tools on top cannot use more than the middleware provides.

> 	- providing virtualized 64-bit counters per-thread
> 	- providing notification (buffered or non) on interrupt/overflow of  
> the above.

Ok that makes sense and should be possible with a reasonable simple
interface.

> If you'd like to outline further what you'd like to hear from the  
> community, I can arrange that. I seem to remember going through this  
> once before, but I'd be happy to do it again. For reference, here's a  
> quick list from memory of some of the tools in active use and built  
> on this infrastructure. These are used heavily around the globe.  

Please list concrete features, throwing around random names is not useful.

-Andi


  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-14  1:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-07  0:34 [PATCH] fix up perfmon to build on -mm Greg KH
2007-11-07 10:34 ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-07 17:07   ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 13:42 ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-07 17:08   ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 17:33     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-07 17:41       ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 17:50     ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-07 17:47   ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 17:57     ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-07 19:53       ` Greg KH
2007-11-07 20:39         ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-08 15:27         ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-09 20:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-09 21:38   ` Greg KH
2007-11-10 20:32     ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 15:17       ` perfmon2 merge news Robert Richter
2007-11-13 15:35         ` [perfmon2] " William Cohen
2007-11-13 17:55           ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 18:33             ` [perfmon] " William Cohen
2007-11-13 21:13               ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 21:29                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 21:46                   ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 21:50                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 22:22                       ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 22:25                         ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 22:58                           ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14  2:07                             ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-14 13:09                               ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 14:24                                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-14 15:44                                   ` William Cohen
2007-11-14 16:13                                     ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 18:53                                     ` Philippe Elie
2007-11-14 19:15                                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-15  0:07                                   ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 18:47             ` Philip Mucci
2007-11-13 18:59               ` Greg KH
2007-11-13 20:07                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 20:14                   ` Greg KH
2007-11-13 20:36                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-14  0:28                     ` Philip Mucci
2007-11-14  1:52                       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-11-16  9:18                         ` Philip Mucci
2007-11-16 15:15                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-16 16:00                             ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-16 16:28                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-16 17:13                                 ` William Cohen
2007-11-16 21:56                                   ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-16 17:36                                 ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-16 17:51                             ` dean gaudet
2007-11-17  0:29                               ` David Miller
2007-11-17  1:07                                 ` Greg KH
2007-11-16 20:16                             ` Philip Mucci
2007-11-17  0:15                             ` David Miller
     [not found]                             ` <1d7226b10711161713j675341b7wdb4f050c59a8be0a@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-17  1:25                               ` Greg KH
     [not found]                                 ` <1d7226b10711161748n39b7f195q796d85282ef66134@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-17  2:13                                   ` Greg KH
2007-11-14  7:24                   ` [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] " Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14  7:40                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 10:38                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-14 10:43                       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 11:00                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-14 11:12                           ` David Miller
2007-11-14 11:14                             ` David Miller
2007-11-14 11:44                             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-13 23:49                               ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 11:58                                 ` David Miller
2007-11-14  0:25                                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 21:30                                     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 10:17                                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 22:56                                         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-11-14 11:03                                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 11:52                               ` David Miller
2007-11-14 12:03                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 12:07                                   ` David Miller
2007-11-14  0:28                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 21:50                                     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 23:03                                       ` David Miller
2007-11-14 23:12                                         ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 23:21                                           ` David Miller
2007-11-15  1:11                                             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-15  1:27                                               ` David Miller
2007-11-15  2:34                                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-15  7:48                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-15  8:19                                                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-19 13:08                                                 ` David Miller
2007-11-19 20:53                                                   ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-20  0:55                                                     ` David Miller
2007-11-19 21:43                                                   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-19 22:48                                                     ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-20  0:53                                                       ` David Miller
2007-12-13 16:00                                                         ` Stephane Eranian
2007-12-14 19:12                                                           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-12-14 21:07                                                             ` Stephane Eranian
2007-12-15 15:54                                                               ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-11-15  8:29                                               ` [perfmon] " Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 13:51                               ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 11:39                           ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 11:52                             ` David Miller
2007-11-14 13:47                             ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 12:38                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-14 14:13                             ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-14 14:26                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-15  0:23                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-14 19:48                             ` David Miller
2007-11-15  4:20                             ` dean gaudet
2007-11-15  4:47                               ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-15  5:14                                 ` dean gaudet
2007-11-15  8:53                               ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-15 17:01                               ` [perfmon2] [perfmon] " Dan Terpstra
2007-11-13 21:33                 ` [perfmon] Re: [perfmon2] " Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 21:45                   ` Greg KH
2007-11-13 22:27               ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-13 20:42           ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-13 18:32         ` Stephane Eranian
2007-11-13 22:29           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-16 18:25           ` PMC core internal API design Mathieu Desnoyers

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