From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [patch 5/8] Immediate Values - x86 Optimization
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:45:18 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200711151545.19359.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071115040610.GA23443@Krystal>
On Thursday 15 November 2007 15:06:10 Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Rusty Russell (rusty@rustcorp.com.au) wrote:
> > A stop_machine (or lightweight variant using IPI) would be sufficient and
> > vastly simpler. Trying to patch NMI handlers while they're running is
> > already crazy.
>
> I wouldn't mind if it was limited to the code within do_nmi(), but then
> we would have to accept potential GPF if
>
> A - the NMI or MCE code calls any external kernel code (printk,
> notify_die, spin_lock/unlock, die_nmi, lapic_wd_event (perfctr code,
> calls printk too for debugging)...
Sure, but as I pointed out previously, such calls are already best effort.
You can do very little safely from do_nmi(), and calling printk isn't one of
them, nor is grabbing a spinlock (well, actually you could as long as it's
*only* used by NMI handlers. See any of those?).
> Therefore, if one decides to use the immediate values to
> leave dormant spinlock instrumentation in the kernel, I wouldn't want it
> to have undesirable side-effects (GPF) when the instrumentation is
> being enabled, as rare as it could be.
It's overengineered, since it's less likely than deadlock already.
> > I'd keep this version up your sleeve for they day when it's needed.
>
> If we choose to go this way, stop_machine would have to do a sync_core()
> on every CPU before it reactivates interrupts for this to respect
> Intel's errata.
Yes, I don't think stop_machine is actually what you want anyway, since you
are happy to run in interrupt context. An IPI-based scheme is probably
better, and also has the side effect of iret doing the sync you need, IIUC.
Hope that clarifies,
Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-15 4:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-13 18:58 [patch 0/8] Immediate Values (now with merged x86 support) Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-13 18:58 ` [patch 1/8] Immediate Values - Architecture Independent Code Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-13 18:58 ` [patch 2/8] Immediate Values - Kconfig menu in EMBEDDED Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-13 18:58 ` [patch 3/8] Immediate Values - Move Kprobes x86 restore_interrupt to kdebug.h Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-13 18:58 ` [patch 4/8] Add asm-compat.h to x86 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-13 19:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-13 20:37 ` [patch 4/8] Add asm-compat.h to x86 -> use new asm.h instead Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-13 18:58 ` [patch 5/8] Immediate Values - x86 Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-13 19:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-13 19:24 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-13 19:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-13 19:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-13 19:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-13 20:40 ` [patch 5/8] Immediate Values - x86 Optimization (update) Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-13 21:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-13 22:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-13 22:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-14 0:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-14 1:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-14 1:44 ` [patch 5/8] Immediate Values - x86 Optimization (update 2) Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-14 2:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-14 14:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-14 18:52 ` [PATCH] Immediate Values x86 Optimization Declare Discarded Instruction Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-14 19:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-14 19:16 ` [PATCH] Add __discard section to x86 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-14 19:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-15 3:08 ` [patch 5/8] Immediate Values - x86 Optimization Rusty Russell
2007-11-15 4:06 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-15 4:45 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2007-11-15 5:37 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-15 11:06 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-16 14:03 ` [patch 5/8] Immediate Values - x86 Optimization (simplified) Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-18 23:11 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-19 14:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-19 23:06 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-20 17:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-19 19:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-13 18:58 ` [patch 6/8] Immediate Values - Powerpc Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-13 18:58 ` [patch 7/8] Immediate Values - Documentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-11-13 18:58 ` [patch 8/8] Scheduler Profiling - Use Immediate Values Mathieu Desnoyers
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