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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
Cc: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>, Guillaume Chazarain <guichaz@yahoo.fr>,
	stefano.brivio@polimi.it, Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scheduler: fix x86 regression in native_sched_clock
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:33:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071208153327.GC30270@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200712081627.45937.mb@bu3sch.de>


* Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de> wrote:

> On Saturday 08 December 2007 16:13:41 Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca> wrote:
> > 
> > > Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > >> ...
> > >> thanks. I do get the impression that most of this can/should wait until 
> > >> 2.6.25. The patches look quite dangerous.
> > > ..
> > >
> > > I confess to not really trying hard to understand everything in this 
> > > thread, but the implication seems to be that this bug might affect 
> > > udelay() and possibly jiffies ?
> > 
> > no, it cannot affect jiffies. (jiffies was a red herring all along)
> > 
> > udelay() cannot be affected either - sched_clock() has no effect on 
> > udelay(). _But_, when there are TSC problems then tsc based udelay() 
> > suffers too so the phenomenons may _seem_ related.
> 
> What about msleep()? I suspect problems in b43 because of this issue. 
> msleep() returning too early. Is that possible with this bug?

i cannot see how. You can verify msleep by running something like this:

  while :; do time usleep 111000; done

you should see a steady stream of:

 real    0m0.113s
 real    0m0.113s
 real    0m0.113s

(on an idle system). If it fluctuates, with occasional longer delays, 
there's some timer problem present.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-08 15:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-07  1:19 [PATCH] scheduler: fix x86 regression in native_sched_clock Stefano Brivio
2007-12-07  5:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-07  5:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-12-07  7:18   ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-12-07  8:02     ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-12-07  8:51       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07  9:29         ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-12-07  9:59           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 13:55       ` [patch] x86: scale cyc_2_nsec according to CPU frequency Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 14:27         ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-12-07 14:52           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-08 15:57             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-08 19:16               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-08 20:18                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-07 10:37   ` [PATCH] scheduler: fix x86 regression in native_sched_clock Andi Kleen
2007-12-07  8:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 10:32   ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-07 10:40     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 11:07       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 11:09       ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-07 11:12         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 11:13   ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-07 11:17     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 16:48       ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-08  0:50         ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-08  0:57           ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-08  8:52             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-08 23:37               ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-12-12  4:42               ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-12 10:44                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 11:18     ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-12-07 11:57       ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-12-07 11:23     ` stefano.brivio
2007-12-07 12:11       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 12:25       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 12:35         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 12:40           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 14:54             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 16:46               ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-12-07 17:57                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-08 15:06                   ` Mark Lord
2007-12-08 15:13                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-08 15:27                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-08 15:33                         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-12-08 15:36                           ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-08 15:41                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 11:24     ` Ingo Molnar

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