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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: tipc_init(), WARNING: at arch/x86/mm/highmem_32.c:52, [2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23]
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 13:34:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071209123441.GA21893@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071209115139.GA29518@elte.hu>


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> > The problem is that for each cache, you have an "per-node alien 
> > queues" for each node (see struct kmem_cache nodelists -> struct 
> > kmem_list3 alien). Moving slab metadata to struct page solves this 
> > but now you can only have one "queue" thats part of the same struct.
> 
> yes, it's what i referred to as "distributed, per node cache". It has 
> no "quadratic overhead". It has SLAB memory spread out amongst nodes. 
> I.e. 1 million pages are distributed amongst 1k nodes with 1000 pages 
> per node with each node having 1 page.
> 
> But that memory is not lost and it's disingenous to call it 'overhead' 
> and it very much comes handy for performance _IF_ there's global 
> workload that involves cross-node allocations. It's simply a cache 
> that is mis-sized and mis-constructed on large node count systems but 
> i bet it makes quite a performance difference on low-node-count 
> systems.
> 
> On high node-count systems it might make sense to reduce the amount of 
> cross-node caching and to _structure_ the distributed NUMA SLAB cache 
> in an intelligent way (perhaps along cpuset boundaries) [...]

i think much of this could be achieved by delaying the creation of alien 
caches up until the point a { node X } -> { node Y } alloc/free 
relationship gets established. So if a system is partitioned along 
cpusets, vast areas of the NxN matrix never gets populated with alien 
caches.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-09 12:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-08  2:40 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23 Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-08  6:53 ` Fabio Comolli
2007-12-08  8:28   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-08  9:23     ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-08 22:11       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-08  9:29 ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-08 22:17   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-08  9:30 ` tipc_init(), WARNING: at arch/x86/mm/highmem_32.c:52, [2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23] Ingo Molnar
2007-12-08 10:11   ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-08 16:37   ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-08 17:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-08 17:54       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-08 18:09         ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-08 18:37           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-08 19:52             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-08 20:29               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-09  8:20                 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-09  8:50                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-09  9:18                     ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-09 11:51                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-09 12:34                         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-12-13 22:07                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-09 15:59                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-11  6:27               ` Dave Jones
2007-12-11  8:52                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-11 19:03                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-14  4:07               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-14  7:16                 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-14 12:49                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 19:54                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-09  7:58           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-09 14:17             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-08 18:33         ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-08 19:00         ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-09  8:33         ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-13 22:03       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-08  9:36 ` 2.6.24-rc4-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.23 Andrew Morton
2007-12-08 10:12   ` Andreas Mohr
2007-12-08 10:20     ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-08 10:28       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-12-08 10:55       ` Andreas Mohr
2007-12-09 15:46         ` Tejun Heo
2007-12-09 19:59           ` Andreas Mohr
2007-12-09  6:52   ` Tejun Heo
2007-12-09 14:20     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-09 15:11       ` Tejun Heo
2007-12-08  9:42 ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-08 18:57   ` Roland Dreier
2007-12-08 19:40   ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-08 19:55     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-08 22:30     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-09  2:15       ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-13 10:49         ` Takashi Iwai
2007-12-20 15:42           ` Takashi Iwai
2007-12-08  9:46 ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-08 15:49   ` Alan Stern
2007-12-08  9:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-09  7:00   ` Tejun Heo
2007-12-09 13:42     ` Alan Cox
2007-12-09 15:09       ` Tejun Heo
2007-12-09 15:25         ` Alan Cox
2007-12-09 15:39           ` Tejun Heo
2007-12-09 18:36       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-09 21:54         ` Alan Cox
2007-12-09 18:41       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-09 22:01         ` Alan Cox
2007-12-09 22:51           ` Ray Lee
2007-12-10  1:57           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-10  3:28             ` Alan Cox
2007-12-10  3:38             ` Alan Cox
2007-12-10 15:38               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-10  8:21             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-10  8:27               ` Tejun Heo
2007-12-10  8:41                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-08 10:44 ` Richard Purdie
2007-12-08 22:32   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-09 11:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-09 12:05   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-09 14:24   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-10 20:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-10 20:57   ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-12-10 20:59   ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-10 22:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-10 23:04       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-10 23:34         ` Stefano Brivio
2007-12-10 23:53           ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-12-11  8:48             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-10 23:56           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-11  0:01             ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-12-11  1:06               ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-11  8:43                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-11  9:01           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-11 21:10             ` Stefano Brivio
2007-12-19  0:58             ` Stefano Brivio

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