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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] ptrace_stop: remove the wrong ->group_stop_count bookkeeping
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:05:25 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071209140525.GA131@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1wsroogi0.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

On 12/08, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> writes:
> 
> > ptrace_stop() decrements ->group_stop_count to "participate" in group stop.
> > This looks very wrong to me, the task can in fact decrement this counter twice.
> > If the tracee returns to the user-space before other threads complete the group
> > stop, it will notice TIF_SIGPENDING and do it again.
> 
> This is one of those interesting weird cases.  The ptrace interface remains per
> task.
> 
> So need to handle a simultaneous thread group stop and a per task stop.
> 
> 
> >
> > Another problem is that we don't set SIGNAL_STOP_STOPPED if the counter becomes
> > zero.
> >
> > I must admit, I don't undestand the reason why this code was added, it is very
> > old.
> 
> I haven't dug in enough yet to understand better, but it is my hunch we
> need to do something when we have both kinds of stop happening simultaneously.

Looking further, I think it was done to match the !is_task_stopped_or_traced()
check in do_signal_stop().

Still, I don't understand why we really need this decrement. The ptrace interface
needs only per-thread TASK_TRACED ot TASK_STOPPED, it doesn't need the completion
of the group stop. We can delay the completion of the group stop, but why this is
bad? At worse, the tracer recieves the extra CLD_STOPPED when the tracee resumes.
And do_signal_stop() probably can s/is_task_stopped_or_traced/is_task_stopped/.

OK, it is better to ignore this patch, I don't understand all implications of this
change. But this all doesn't look very good. Suppose we have a lot of threads and
the task with _TIF_SYSCALL_TRACE does system call. So ptrace_notify() decrements
the counter before syscall, after, and before the return to user-space.

Hopefully Roland can clarify.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-09 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-08 18:38 [PATCH 2/3] ptrace_stop: remove the wrong ->group_stop_count bookkeeping Oleg Nesterov
2007-12-09  0:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-09 14:05   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2008-01-10 10:41     ` Petr Tesarik
2008-01-10 21:39       ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-01-11  8:50         ` Petr Tesarik

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