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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jie Chen <chen@jlab.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: Possible bug from kernel 2.6.22 and above, 2.6.24-rc4
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:51:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071211105149.GA24250@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <475D9BB5.20808@jlab.org>


* Jie Chen <chen@jlab.org> wrote:

>> and then you use this in the measurement loop:
>>
>>    for (k=0; k<=OUTERREPS; k++){
>>      start  = getclock();
>>      for (j=0; j<innerreps; j++){
>>  #ifdef _QMT_PUBLIC
>>        delay((void *)0, 0);
>>  #else
>>        delay(0, 0, 0, (void *)0);
>>  #endif
>>      }
>>      times[k] = (getclock() - start) * 1.0e6 / (double) innerreps;
>>    }
>>
>> the problem is, this does not take the overhead of gettimeofday into 
>> account - which overhead can easily reach 10 usecs (the observed 
>> regression). Could you try to eliminate the gettimeofday overhead from 
>> your measurement?
>>
>> gettimeofday overhead is something that might have changed from .21 to .22 
>> on your box.
>>
>> 	Ingo
>
> Hi, Ingo:
>
> In my pthread_sync code, I first call refer () subroutine which 
> actually establishes the elapsed time (reference time) for 
> non-synchronized delay() using the gettimeofday. Then each 
> synchronization overhead value is obtained by subtracting the 
> reference time from the elapsed time with introduced synchronization. 
> The effect of gettimeofday() should be minimal if the time difference 
> (overhead value) is the interest here. Unless the gettimeofday behaves 
> differently in the case of running 8 threads .vs. running 2 threads.
>
> I will try to replace gettimeofday with a lightweight timer call in my 
> test code. Thank you very much.

gettimeofday overhead is around 10 usecs here:

 2740  1197359374.873214 gettimeofday({1197359374, 873225}, NULL) = 0 <0.000010>
 2740  1197359374.970592 gettimeofday({1197359374, 970608}, NULL) = 0 <0.000010>

and that's the only thing that is going on when computing the reference 
time - and i see a similar syscall pattern in the PARALLEL and BARRIER 
calculations as well (with no real scheduling going on).

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-11 10:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-21 20:34 Possible bug from kernel 2.6.22 and above Jie Chen
2007-11-21 22:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-22  1:52   ` Jie Chen
2007-11-22  2:32     ` Simon Holm Thøgersen
2007-11-22  2:58       ` Jie Chen
2007-11-22 20:19         ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-04 13:17         ` Possible bug from kernel 2.6.22 and above, 2.6.24-rc4 Ingo Molnar
2007-12-04 15:41           ` Jie Chen
2007-12-05 15:29           ` Jie Chen
2007-12-05 15:40             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-05 16:16               ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-05 16:25                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-05 16:29                   ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-05 16:22               ` Jie Chen
2007-12-05 16:47                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-05 17:47                   ` Jie Chen
2007-12-05 20:03                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-05 20:23                       ` Jie Chen
2007-12-05 20:46                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-05 20:52                           ` Jie Chen
2007-12-05 21:02                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-05 22:16                               ` Jie Chen
2007-12-06 10:43                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-06 16:29                                   ` Jie Chen
2007-12-10 10:59                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-10 20:04                                       ` Jie Chen
2007-12-11 10:51                                         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-12-11 15:28                                           ` Jie Chen
2007-12-11 15:52                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-11 16:39                                               ` Jie Chen
2007-12-11 21:23                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-11 22:11                                                   ` Jie Chen
2007-12-12 12:49                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-05 20:36 ` Possible bug from kernel 2.6.22 and above Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-05 20:53   ` Jie Chen

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