From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
Cc: Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>,
stefano.brivio@polimi.it,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>,
matthias.kaehlcke@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
mbuesch@freenet.de, linux@bohmer.net, kjwinchester@gmail.com,
jonathan@jonmasters.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:59:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071214175910.GA27078@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200712141759.59273.mb@bu3sch.de>
* Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de> wrote:
> In my opinion this all is the work of the distributions and not the
> work of the kernel developers. Distributions have to make sure that
> everything works after a kernel update. [...]
actually, not. The the task of kernel developers is to KEEP OLD
DISTRIBUTIONS WORKING WITH NEW DRIVERS. Or the "old" driver stays around
until eternity, because the new one is just BROKEN.
Take a look at CONFIG_COMPAT_VDSO for example - one single version of
glibc was released in a distro that depended on a kernel vDSO bug. So
we'll keep that aspect of the vDSO perhaps forever. Simple as that.
Stuff must just work. Whatever it takes. Best is if you add in new stuff
without the user noticing _ANYTHING_ but that the kernel version bumped.
If the maintainers of the other 7 million lines of kernel code can get
this right then the wireless code should be able to do it too. Ok?
all this "distributors will have to sort out the mess" talk is nonsense,
and i really hope you do not truly believe in that crap. If your
attitude is prevalent in the wireless development community then it's in
worse shape than i thought :-(
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-14 18:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20071213003023.117964080@mvista.com>
2007-12-12 8:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] ps3: vuart: fix error path locking Daniel Walker
2007-12-13 2:00 ` Geoff Levand
2007-12-19 1:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-19 1:54 ` Daniel Walker
2007-12-19 3:04 ` Geoff Levand
2007-12-20 19:32 ` Daniel Walker
2007-12-20 20:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-20 20:13 ` Daniel Walker
2007-12-12 8:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] driver base: memory: semaphore to mutex Daniel Walker
2007-12-12 8:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem " Daniel Walker
2007-12-13 0:48 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-13 1:17 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-13 13:45 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 0:05 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 0:43 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 0:55 ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-14 10:45 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 1:12 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 10:49 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 11:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 11:39 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 12:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 12:31 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 12:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 13:08 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 16:06 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 16:49 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 18:01 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 18:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 18:47 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 18:22 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 18:45 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 19:05 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 19:25 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 19:38 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 19:55 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 20:13 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 21:39 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 12:59 ` Simon Holm Thøgersen
2007-12-14 13:04 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-15 0:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-15 0:58 ` Larry Finger
2007-12-15 1:59 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-15 2:27 ` Larry Finger
2007-12-15 4:37 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-15 4:39 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-15 7:18 ` Larry Finger
2007-12-15 12:38 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 2:17 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 6:52 ` Larry Finger
2007-12-17 7:17 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 9:49 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-17 10:15 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 10:35 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 22:04 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 22:45 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-17 23:12 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 23:18 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-17 23:27 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-18 1:16 ` Larry Finger
2007-12-18 2:34 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-19 2:12 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-19 8:11 ` Larry Finger
[not found] ` <200712191046.54147.mb@bu3sch.de>
2007-12-19 13:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-15 10:57 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-15 23:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-15 23:27 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-16 2:30 ` Larry Finger
2007-12-16 11:13 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-16 13:56 ` Johannes Berg
2007-12-16 14:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-16 14:18 ` Johannes Berg
2007-12-14 2:09 ` Larry Finger
2007-12-14 10:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 14:14 ` John W. Linville
2007-12-14 14:40 ` stefano.brivio
2007-12-14 16:27 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 16:45 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 16:59 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 17:22 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 17:59 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-12-14 18:38 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-15 1:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-15 21:43 ` John W. Linville
2007-12-15 23:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-16 3:20 ` Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
2007-12-16 9:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-16 11:23 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-13 1:20 ` Daniel Walker
2007-12-13 10:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-13 11:11 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-13 14:23 ` John W. Linville
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