From: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
To: "Ray Lee" <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de,
"Daniel Walker" <dwalker@mvista.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux@bohmer.net, jonathan@jonmasters.org,
matthias.kaehlcke@gmail.com, kjwinchester@gmail.com,
"John Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
"Larry Finger" <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:22:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200712141922.04677.mb@bu3sch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c0942db0712141001l6ad77657q1dceee5cb872a979@mail.gmail.com>
On Friday 14 December 2007 19:01:51 Ray Lee wrote:
> No, I don't have module autoloading disabled. modprobe-ing b43
> automatically loads ssb. Neither, however, will load rfkill or
> rfkill-input. And if they aren't loaded, then b43/ssb are *completely*
> silent during load. Nothing to dmesg at all.
That is a bug in your distribution. I cannot fix this.
Maybe the module is blacklisted or whatever. This is _not_ a b43 bug.
> > This all works perfectly well on all of my systems. And I never heared
> > such a problem before.
>
> WTF? Please read *YOUR OWN MESSAGE* to the bcm43xx-dev list:
>
> https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2007-December/006456.html
>
> I'm going to blame this on you being tired or something, okay? But in
> the meantime, could you *PLEASE* start giving me the benefit of the
> doubt?
The message you quote describes a _completely_ unrelated bug.
Besides that the bug described in the message does _not_ prevent
the device from working. It does _just_ prevent some random LED from
blinking. I'd not call that a big issue.
To say it again: This message was about loading "rfkill-input" _after_
b43 was loaded successfully.
Please carefully read the messages before using them to prove me wrong.
> > If you have a PCI device probing works as follows:
> > The PCI table is in ssb. So as soon as your kernel detects the PCI device
> > it will load ssb. ssb will register the PCI device. That will trigger
> > an udev event for the contained 802.11 core to get probed. This will load
> > b43.
> >
> > So, I'm not sure where's the issue with my code here.
>
> There's a patch from Larry Finger to address this and other issues. It
> hasn't made it's way fully upstream yet. Please read your message
> here, in particular item number seven on Larry's list:
>
> https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2007-December/006472.html
1) I sent this patch out today for inclusion in the kernel
2) This is a _completely_ unrelated issue.
It is about "rfkill-input" being not loaded. NOT about
"b43" or "rfkill" not being loaded.
> > If you do
> > modprobe b43
> > it will automatically load _all_ required modules.
> > It works perfectly well on my systems.
> > Try it. Simply type "modprobe b43". It will also work for you.
>
> As I've said multiple times earlier in this thread, I did try that and
> it didn't work. Do you believe me now?
Ok, Please find out why it doesn't work.
> > > Heeeeellooooo? I tried that. It failed. What *I'm* talking about here
> > > is that this everyone needs to be aware that this is *not* a drop in
> > > replacement for bcm43xx, and if I'm having problems (not a kernel
> > > hacker, but I make my living writing code), then sheesh, you're gonna
> > > have a flood of people needing hand-holding on this.
> >
> > All problems so far were not related to the b43 sourcecode at all.
> > And I think I can not be held responsible for unrelated code or bugs
> > in the operating system scripts.
>
> So, do you want a scorecard on this?
>
> One problem related to b43 source code, patch exists, has yet to be
> merged upstream.
Yeah. A problem preventing a LED from blinking.
That's a real regression.... Come on. Stop that bullshit.
> One problem related to udev rules, that may or may not be fixed in the
> latest udev. I have udev version 113, which is the latest shipped in
> Ubuntu's nightly development snapshots (hardy heron). I see that
> version 117 of udev is available on kernel.org, but mine is from the
> end of June. One would think that wouldn't be so old as to be a
> complete deal breaker. Especially as bcm43xx works fine with my udev.
How can I fix that?
> With udev rules hand-edited to include the ATTRS{type}==1 Larry
> pointed out (thanks Larry), b43 also seems to create an odd extra
> device, wmaster0.
That's not b43 specific. And it is not a bug. Ignore wmaster.
It is not useful for anything from userspace.
> Same MAC as eth1, my wireless. It's just an odd
> thing that wasn't there before with bcm43xx. May be good, may be bad,
> dunno.
Blame your distribution, please.
> And yeah, in my opinion, making the kernel play well with up-to-date
> userspace actually *is* part of your job, but then again, what do I
> know.
How the hell do I workaround broken udev scripts from within the kernel?
> Michael, you're a good guy, I believe that. You're doing unglamorous
> and mostly thankless work, and I am thankful for it. I'm afraid the
> only way I could make it glamorous is to offer to send you a fancy
> feathered outfit to wear while coding :-). But try to meet us testers
> halfway, okay? Please keep in mind that I'm really only trying to
> help.
Yeah. So PLEASE point out real bugs in MY code and do not bother
me with other peoples bugs that I simply can not fix.
In the list above there was exactly one bug for which I am responsible.
And I already sent a fix for this one.
> Now I'm going to go off, sit in the sun, sip some coffee, and think
> happy thoughts of kittens playing with yarn for a while.
Have fun.
--
Greetings Michael.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-14 18:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20071213003023.117964080@mvista.com>
2007-12-12 8:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] ps3: vuart: fix error path locking Daniel Walker
2007-12-13 2:00 ` Geoff Levand
2007-12-19 1:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-19 1:54 ` Daniel Walker
2007-12-19 3:04 ` Geoff Levand
2007-12-20 19:32 ` Daniel Walker
2007-12-20 20:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-20 20:13 ` Daniel Walker
2007-12-12 8:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] driver base: memory: semaphore to mutex Daniel Walker
2007-12-12 8:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem " Daniel Walker
2007-12-13 0:48 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-13 1:17 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-13 13:45 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 0:05 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 0:43 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 0:55 ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-14 10:45 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 1:12 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 10:49 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 11:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 11:39 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 12:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 12:31 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 12:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 13:08 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 16:06 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 16:49 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 18:01 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 18:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 18:47 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 18:22 ` Michael Buesch [this message]
2007-12-14 18:45 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 19:05 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 19:25 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 19:38 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 19:55 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 20:13 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 21:39 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 12:59 ` Simon Holm Thøgersen
2007-12-14 13:04 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-15 0:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-15 0:58 ` Larry Finger
2007-12-15 1:59 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-15 2:27 ` Larry Finger
2007-12-15 4:37 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-15 4:39 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-15 7:18 ` Larry Finger
2007-12-15 12:38 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 2:17 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 6:52 ` Larry Finger
2007-12-17 7:17 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 9:49 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-17 10:15 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 10:35 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 22:04 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 22:45 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-17 23:12 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-17 23:18 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-17 23:27 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-18 1:16 ` Larry Finger
2007-12-18 2:34 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-19 2:12 ` mvtodevnull
2007-12-19 8:11 ` Larry Finger
[not found] ` <200712191046.54147.mb@bu3sch.de>
2007-12-19 13:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-15 10:57 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-15 23:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-15 23:27 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-16 2:30 ` Larry Finger
2007-12-16 11:13 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-16 13:56 ` Johannes Berg
2007-12-16 14:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-16 14:18 ` Johannes Berg
2007-12-14 2:09 ` Larry Finger
2007-12-14 10:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 14:14 ` John W. Linville
2007-12-14 14:40 ` stefano.brivio
2007-12-14 16:27 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 16:45 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 16:59 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-14 17:22 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-14 17:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 18:38 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-15 1:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-15 21:43 ` John W. Linville
2007-12-15 23:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-16 3:20 ` Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
2007-12-16 9:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-16 11:23 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-13 1:20 ` Daniel Walker
2007-12-13 10:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-13 11:11 ` Michael Buesch
2007-12-13 14:23 ` John W. Linville
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