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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Make WARN_ON/WARN_ON_ONCE no-ops when CONFIG_BUG is off
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:12:00 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071215061200.GP19691@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071215060449.GA26199@gondor.apana.org.au>

On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 02:04:49PM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 11:52:18PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote:
> >
> > No. The code as written above should reduce to:
> > 
> > 	if (val == NULL)
> > 		return -EFAULT;
> > 
> > If I hadn't wanted to return -EFAULT in this case, I would have just written:
> > 
> > 	WARN_ON(val == NULL);
> 
> Well the only reason I introduced
> 
> 	if (WARN_ON)
> 
> is so that what would otherwise be a BUG_ON condition would have
> a chance to get written to disk when invoked from an IRQ handler.
> 
> > I don't want code that was running safely (ie returning -EFAULT) to
> > start crashing the system just because I've, say, disabled printk.
> > That's creating an obnoxious heisenbug.
> 
> I'm disappointed that it has been used in ways that it shouldn't
> have been.
> 
> I suppose we'll have to either introduce a new primitive or just
> go back to using BUG_ON.

Seems we haven't yet reached concensus on what an appropriate use for
BUG_ON is. There's a fairly large camp who think that there are
basically no good reasons to outright crash a machine and that WARN_ON
should replace BUG_ON everywhere.

I tend to agree with this position, except when it comes to handling
filesystems, where panic is often (but not always) the right thing to
do.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-15  6:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-14 13:27 [PATCH] Make WARN_ON/WARN_ON_ONCE no-ops when CONFIG_BUG is off Herbert Xu
2007-12-14 18:02 ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-15  4:16   ` Herbert Xu
2007-12-15  5:52     ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-15  6:04       ` Herbert Xu
2007-12-15  6:12         ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2007-12-15  6:31           ` Herbert Xu
2007-12-15  6:52         ` Herbert Xu
2007-12-15 17:54           ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-15  6:45       ` Dave Jones
2007-12-15  6:22   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-15  6:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-15  6:34   ` Herbert Xu
2007-12-15 18:12     ` Matt Mackall

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