From: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
security@kernel.org, tytso@mit.edu,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
John Reiser <jreiser@BitWagon.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org, mpm@selenic.com,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Security] Signed divides vs shifts (Re: /dev/urandom uses uninit bytes, leaks user data)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:08:10 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071217190810.GE8181@ftp.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.9999.0712171009570.21557@woody.linux-foundation.org>
On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 10:28:38AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> [ So Al, when you said that
>
> (a-b)
>
> is equivalent to
>
> ((char *)a-(char *)b)/4
>
> for a "int *" a and b, you're right in the sense that the *result* is
> the same, but the code generation likely isn't. The "a-b" thing can (and
Sure. And yes, I very much do prefer code that uses C as it ought to be
used and doesn't play games with casts from hell, etc. For a lot of reasons,
both correctness- and efficiency-related.
We _do_ have such turds. In spades. And such places are potential timebombs,
since well-intentioned idiotic patch ("I've read in lecture notes that sizeof
is better than explicit constant, so replacement surely can only improve the
things and the best part is, I don't need to understand what I'm doing")
turns an ugly FPOS into equally ugly FPOS that silently doesn't work ;-/
[sorry about the rant, I'm about 3/4 through the drivers/net colonoscopy,
with >300Kb of patches and a pile of assorted bugs so far - and then there's
drivers/scsi to deal with. Endianness stuff, mostly...]
prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-17 19:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-14 19:34 /dev/urandom uses uninit bytes, leaks user data John Reiser
2007-12-14 20:13 ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-14 20:45 ` John Reiser
2007-12-14 23:23 ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-15 0:30 ` John Reiser
2007-12-15 4:32 ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-17 16:30 ` John Reiser
2007-12-17 17:36 ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-18 0:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2007-12-18 3:05 ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-18 3:13 ` David Newall
2007-12-18 3:46 ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-18 4:09 ` David Newall
2007-12-18 4:23 ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-19 22:43 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-12-19 22:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-12-20 4:18 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2007-12-20 20:17 ` Phillip Susi
2007-12-21 16:10 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2007-12-22 1:14 ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-26 18:30 ` Phillip Susi
2007-12-20 20:36 ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-27 10:44 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-18 5:12 ` David Schwartz
2007-12-17 20:59 ` David Schwartz
2007-12-15 7:13 ` Herbert Xu
2007-12-15 16:30 ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-17 17:28 ` Signed divides vs shifts (Re: [Security] /dev/urandom uses uninit bytes, leaks user data) Linus Torvalds
2007-12-17 17:48 ` Al Viro
2007-12-17 17:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-17 18:05 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-17 18:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-17 18:12 ` Ray Lee
2007-12-17 18:23 ` Al Viro
2007-12-17 18:28 ` [Security] Signed divides vs shifts (Re: " Linus Torvalds
2007-12-17 19:08 ` Al Viro [this message]
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