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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: Major regression on hackbench with SLUB (more numbers)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:26:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071221122628.GA18002@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071221120908.GA15926@elte.hu>


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> * Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hmmmm... Some tests here on an 8p 8G machine:
> 
> > In an extreme case (boot with slub_min_order=9 to get huge page sized 
> > slabs) SLUB can win against SLAB:
> > 
> > N=10 Time: 0.338	Minimally faster
> > N=20 Time: 0.560	10% faster
> > N=50 Time: 1.353	15% faster
> 
> what's up with this regression? There's been absolutely no activity 
> about it in the last 8 days: upstream still regresses, -mm still 
> regresses and there are no patches posted for testing.
> 
> being able to utilize order-0 pages was supposed to be one of the big 
> plusses of SLUB, so booting with _2MB_ sized slabs cannot be seriously 
> the "fix", right?

and this is not the only regression:

    http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/10/4/290

_6%_ TPC-C regression. That's _a lot_ in TPC-C terms.

and just like in this case there were very clear profiles posted. I 
proffer, reading back the whole thread, that if you fix hackbench you 
have fixed TPC-C as well.

So i believe you should either send some sensible fixes _NOW_, or admit 
that the "no queues" NIH nonsense of SLUB doesnt work and do an edible, 
incremental patchset against SLAB to bring in the debuggability features 
of SLUB without killing SLAB's performance. (And fix the NUMA alien 
cache problem along the lines suggested before - perhaps initially by 
making 'noaliencache' the default bootup option.) And we obviously must 
revert the default in 2.6.24 to SLAB as well.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-21 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-07 17:50 Major regression on hackbench with SLUB Steven Rostedt
2007-12-07 17:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07 18:36   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07 18:58     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-08 22:16     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-10  7:38       ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-12-10 14:00         ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-09  0:28     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-13 22:11     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-11 14:33 ` Major regression on hackbench with SLUB (more numbers) Ingo Molnar
2007-12-13 22:22   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-14  4:24     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-14  6:15       ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-21 12:09       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-21 12:26         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-12-21 16:26           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 16:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-21 21:56               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 16:18         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 16:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-21 22:11             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 22:16               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-21 22:17                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-21 22:27                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 22:54                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-21 23:20                       ` David Miller
2007-12-22  9:45                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-24 19:24                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 23:27                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-21 23:51                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-22  0:28                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22  0:33                         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-12-22  2:19                         ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-22  2:44                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22 10:03                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-22 12:37                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22 12:51                             ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-22 12:54                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22 13:27                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-22 13:01                             ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-12-22 18:01                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-22 19:09                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-22 19:29                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-22 22:52                               ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2007-12-24  3:59                                 ` Alessandro Suardi
2007-12-22 19:25                             ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-22 21:00                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-22 21:50                                 ` Al Viro
2007-12-22 23:29                                   ` Al Viro
2007-12-22 22:10                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-12-23  0:59                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-23  5:12                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-12-23 14:15                                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-24  3:45                                         ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-24 19:21                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-24 23:37                                             ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-25  3:34                                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-01 12:47                                                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-01 15:19                                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-01 16:23                                                   ` [patch] slub: provide /proc/slabinfo Ingo Molnar
2008-01-05  0:27                                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-05  0:49                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-26 21:31                                               ` Major regression on hackbench with SLUB (more numbers) Christoph Lameter
2007-12-26 22:16                                                 ` Al Viro
2007-12-27  5:51                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 20:28                                                     ` SLUB sysfs support Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 22:59                                                       ` Al Viro
2007-12-27 23:22                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 23:53                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 23:58                                                             ` Al Viro
2007-12-28  0:02                                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-28  0:45                                                                 ` Al Viro
2007-12-28  2:19                                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-28  3:26                                                                     ` Al Viro
2008-01-02 20:25                                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 23:54                                                           ` Al Viro
2007-12-28  9:00                                                   ` Major regression on hackbench with SLUB (more numbers) Ingo Molnar
2007-12-28 14:52                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-22 19:46                             ` slabtop replacement was " Andi Kleen
2007-12-22 23:28                               ` Karol Swietlicki
2007-12-29 18:08                                 ` Karol Swietlicki
2007-12-21 22:49               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-21 17:44         ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-21 22:22           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 22:37             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 22:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-21 23:17                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-21 23:40                   ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-21 23:54                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-22  0:02                     ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-12-21 22:52               ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-21 22:56               ` Ingo Molnar

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