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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: clameter@sgi.com, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hch@infradead.org, rjw@sisk.pl
Subject: Re: Major regression on hackbench with SLUB (more numbers)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:27:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071221152736.7f9637a9.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071221225413.GA26189@elte.hu>

On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 23:54:13 +0100
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> * Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > 
> > > BTW, does /proc/slabinfo exist again? I thought we set that as a 
> > > requirement for SLUB to be the default and a full replacement for 
> > > SLAB.
> > 
> > Well the information that would be exposed in /proc/slabinfo would 
> > only be faked up stuff from SLUB. The queues that are described in 
> > /proc/slabinfo do not exist f.e. (tunables do not make sense) and 
> > there are more details available via /sys/kernel/slab.
> 
> Christoph, /proc/slabinfo is an _ABI_. You HAVE to provide it.

That would be really bad.

/proc/slabinfo intimately exposes implementation-specific internals and
strictly speaking should never have been introduced.  Obviously that isn't
a _practical_ position, but there are no easy solutions here.

We don't want to have to drag a pile of be-compatible-with-slab gunk along
with us for ever.

> slabtop 
> relies on it, people use it every day to monitor memory consumption.

slabtop needs to be changed asap.

Possibly we could look at adding some interrim make-it-look-like-slab hack
into slub.c for a couple of releases but no longer.

If we'd updated slabtop six months ago this issue wouldn't have arisen now.

But we didn't do that.   We're quite bad at this sort of thing.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-12-21 23:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-07 17:50 Major regression on hackbench with SLUB Steven Rostedt
2007-12-07 17:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-07 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07 18:36   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07 18:58     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-08 22:16     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-10  7:38       ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-12-10 14:00         ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-09  0:28     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-13 22:11     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-11 14:33 ` Major regression on hackbench with SLUB (more numbers) Ingo Molnar
2007-12-13 22:22   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-14  4:24     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-14  6:15       ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-21 12:09       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-21 12:26         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-21 16:26           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 16:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-21 21:56               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 16:18         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 16:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-21 22:11             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 22:16               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-21 22:17                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-21 22:27                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 22:54                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-21 23:20                       ` David Miller
2007-12-22  9:45                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-24 19:24                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 23:27                       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-12-21 23:51                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-22  0:28                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22  0:33                         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-12-22  2:19                         ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-22  2:44                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22 10:03                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-22 12:37                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22 12:51                             ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-22 12:54                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22 13:27                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-22 13:01                             ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-12-22 18:01                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-22 19:09                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-22 19:29                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-22 22:52                               ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2007-12-24  3:59                                 ` Alessandro Suardi
2007-12-22 19:25                             ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-22 21:00                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-22 21:50                                 ` Al Viro
2007-12-22 23:29                                   ` Al Viro
2007-12-22 22:10                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-12-23  0:59                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-23  5:12                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-12-23 14:15                                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-24  3:45                                         ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-24 19:21                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-24 23:37                                             ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-25  3:34                                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-01 12:47                                                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-01 15:19                                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-01 16:23                                                   ` [patch] slub: provide /proc/slabinfo Ingo Molnar
2008-01-05  0:27                                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-05  0:49                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-26 21:31                                               ` Major regression on hackbench with SLUB (more numbers) Christoph Lameter
2007-12-26 22:16                                                 ` Al Viro
2007-12-27  5:51                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 20:28                                                     ` SLUB sysfs support Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 22:59                                                       ` Al Viro
2007-12-27 23:22                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 23:53                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 23:58                                                             ` Al Viro
2007-12-28  0:02                                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-28  0:45                                                                 ` Al Viro
2007-12-28  2:19                                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-28  3:26                                                                     ` Al Viro
2008-01-02 20:25                                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-27 23:54                                                           ` Al Viro
2007-12-28  9:00                                                   ` Major regression on hackbench with SLUB (more numbers) Ingo Molnar
2007-12-28 14:52                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-22 19:46                             ` slabtop replacement was " Andi Kleen
2007-12-22 23:28                               ` Karol Swietlicki
2007-12-29 18:08                                 ` Karol Swietlicki
2007-12-21 22:49               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-21 17:44         ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-21 22:22           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 22:37             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-21 22:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-21 23:17                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-21 23:40                   ` Pekka Enberg
2007-12-21 23:54                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-12-22  0:02                     ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-12-21 22:52               ` Steven Rostedt
2007-12-21 22:56               ` Ingo Molnar

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