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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pagg@oss.sgi.com, erikj@sgi.com,
	matthltc@us.ibm.com, pj@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] add task handling notifier
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 14:05:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071225140526.547a882f.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071223122621.GA19310@infradead.org>

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:26:21 +0000 Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 01:11:24PM +0000, Jan Beulich wrote:
> > With more and more sub-systems/sub-components leaving their footprint
> > in task handling functions, it seems reasonable to add notifiers that
> > these components can use instead of having them all patch themselves
> > directly into core files.
> 
> I agree that we probably want something like this.  As do some others,
> so we already had a few a few attempts at similar things.  The first one
> is from SGI and called PAGG (http://oss.sgi.com/projects/pagg/) and also
> includes allocating per-task data for it's users.  Then also from SGI
> there has been a simplified version called pnotify that's also available
> from the website above.
> 
> Later Matt Helsley had something called "Task Watchers" which lwn has
> an article on: http://lwn.net/Articles/208117/.
> 
> For some reason neither ever made a lot of progess (performance
> problems?).
> 

I had it in -mm, sorted out all the problems but ended up not pulling the
trigger.

Problem is, it adds runtime overhead purely for the convenience of kernel
programmers, and I don't think that's a good tradeoff.

Sprinkling direct calls into a few well-known sites won't kill us, and
we've survived this long.  Why not keep doing that, and save everyone a few
cycles?



  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-25 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-20 13:11 [PATCH 0/4] add task handling notifier Jan Beulich
2007-12-20 22:25 ` Ingo Oeser
2007-12-21  7:36   ` Jan Beulich
2007-12-23 12:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-12-25 22:05   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-01-08 13:38     ` Jan Beulich
2008-01-08 22:14       ` Andrew Morton
2008-01-09  0:03         ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-09  0:31           ` Andrew Morton
2008-01-09  2:47         ` Matt Helsley
2008-01-09  3:22           ` Andrew Morton
2008-01-09  9:52         ` Jan Beulich
2008-01-09 10:03           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-09  2:24   ` Matt Helsley
2008-01-09  3:27     ` Matthew Helsley

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