From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:51:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071226205103.GG8094@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4772BD0C.3040609@zytor.com>
On Wed 2007-12-26 12:43:56, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Oliver Neukum wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch, 26. Dezember 2007 19:56:59 schrieb H. Peter Anvin:
>>>> 3) Network card that is either down
>>>> or can wake up system on any packet (and not loose too many packets)
>>>>
>>> This is the big crux I see. You're going to constantly wake up the
>>> machine due to broadcast packets, and spend a lot of power just going in
>>> and out of S3.
>> How many machines care a lot about saving power while they are connected
>> to an ethernet? Wlan might be more of a problem.
>
> A lot of them should. An inordinate amount of machines sit there burning
> power for no reason. You can argue that S3 isn't needed -- that nohz +
> C3/C4 + turning off the screen would be enough, and that might be
> + legit.
NOHZ + C4 + turn off screen + turn off disk + turn off SATA is still
~8W on thinkpad x60.
S3 is ~1W.
That's quite significant difference.
(But yes, connected-to-ethernet is not most important use scenario.)
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-26 20:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-25 23:07 [RFC] sleepy linux Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 17:28 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-26 19:02 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 20:17 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 20:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-26 20:32 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 23:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-29 23:48 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-27 9:41 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-29 23:51 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-30 16:39 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-31 14:44 ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-02 10:52 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-26 18:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-26 19:00 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 19:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-26 20:08 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-26 20:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-26 20:51 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-12-26 20:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-29 23:44 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 20:09 ` [linux-pm] " Igor Stoppa
2007-12-30 11:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-05 21:51 ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-08 16:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-08 19:15 ` Pavel Machek
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