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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:44:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071231144447.GD26339@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200712301739.42192.oliver@neukum.org>

On Sun 2007-12-30 17:39:42, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 30. Dezember 2007 00:51:34 schrieb Pavel Machek:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > > > ... I also don't need to call any suspend() routines, because all the
> > > > drivers are already suspended, right?
> > > 
> > > Well, you have a number of devices which cannot do runtime pm.
> > > They can do suspend/resume with the whole system. For them these
> > > operations mean saving/restoring state.
> > > So for these devices implementing autosuspend makes no sense.
> > > They would sensibly do only idle/busy detection.
> > 
> > Yep... Let's call busy/idle detection and save/restore state
> > "autosuspend" for those devices. It does not save any power, but it
> > can be viewed as "kind-of-suspend". (No, I do not have this kind of
> > details ready).
> 
> Well, you probably would have to walk through all devices and check
> all devices are either suspended or can be suspended. That would mean
> struct device has to be extended to show common attributes.
> 
> But what's wrong with calling suspend() the conventional way once you've
> decided to go into sleepy mode?

I'm not sure if it can be done in non-racy way. It is different from
"conventional" suspend(): you can still have userland requests after
this suspend(), and you should abort auto-sleep if you get one. (As
opposed to blocking in system suspend case).
								Pavel

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-31 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-25 23:07 [RFC] sleepy linux Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 17:28 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-26 19:02   ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 20:17   ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 20:23     ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-26 20:32       ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 23:15         ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-29 23:48           ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-27  9:41         ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-29 23:51           ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-30 16:39             ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-31 14:44               ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2008-01-02 10:52                 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-26 18:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-26 19:00   ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 19:22     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-26 20:08   ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-26 20:43     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-26 20:51       ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 20:54         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-29 23:44           ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 20:09 ` [linux-pm] " Igor Stoppa
2007-12-30 11:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-05 21:51   ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-08 16:37     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-08 19:15       ` Pavel Machek

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