From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755088AbYAAPS1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:18:27 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754756AbYAAPSH (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:18:07 -0500 Received: from smtp5.pp.htv.fi ([213.243.153.39]:54184 "EHLO smtp5.pp.htv.fi" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754612AbYAAPSG (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:18:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 17:17:51 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Alan Cox Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL Message-ID: <20080101151751.GW2360@does.not.exist> References: <20080101134809.GK2360@does.not.exist> <20080101142344.769f16c7@the-village.bc.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080101142344.769f16c7@the-village.bc.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 02:23:44PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:48:09 +0200 > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > This patch removes the EXPERIMENTAL option and all dependencies on > > EXPERIMENTAL since they are pointless. > > NAK > > Experimental is an important guide to driver and code quality. >... History has shown that EXPERIMENTAL tags in many areas of the kernel have not been maintained in a way that they would be usable as a guide. And as soon as you need _one_ driver or feature depending on EXPERIMENTAL, you anyway lose all benefits it might have had. The latter is the point where it makes sense if a user or distribution e.g. enables CONFIG_ATA_EXPERIMENTAL for getting all hardware supported but not CONFIG_CRYPTO_EXPERIMENTAL because he doesn't want to use (resp. support usage of) experimental cryptographic algorithm implementations. > > This patch has been sent on: > > 11 Dec 2007 > > 25 Nov 2007 > > 17 Nov 2007 > > So why not drop it instead. It clearly has no consensus That's not about consensus, it's more that the number of submissions required until Andrew includes a patch into -mm seems to be related to the number of files touched... cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed