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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PM: Acquire device locks on suspend
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:01:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801071901.24926.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0801071207090.2748-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Monday, 7 of January 2008, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > Please see the patch at: http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/6/298 .  It represents my
> > current idea about how to do that.
> 
> It has some problems.
> 
> First, note that the list manipulations in dpm_suspend(), 
> device_power_down(), and so on aren't protected by dpm_list_mtx.  So 
> your patch could corrupt the list pointers.

Yes, they need the locking.  I have overlooked that, mostly because the locking
was removed by gregkh-driver-pm-acquire-device-locks-prior-to-suspending.patch
too (because you assumed there woundn't be any need to remove a device during
a suspend, right?).

> Are you assuming that no other threads can be running at this time?

No, I'm not.

> Note also that device_pm_destroy_suspended() does up(&dev->sem), but it 
> doesn't know whether or not dev->sem was locked to begin with.

Do you mean it might have been released already by another thread
calling device_pm_destroy_suspended() on the same device?

> Do you want to rule out the possibility of a driver's suspend or remove 
> methods calling destroy_suspended_device() on its own device?  With 
> your synchronous approach, this would mean that the suspend/resume 
> method would indirectly end up calling the remove method.  This is 
> dangerous at best; with USB it would be a lockdep violation.  With an 
> asynchronous approach, on the other hand, this wouldn't be a problem.

Well, the asynchronous apprach has the problem that the device may end up
on a wrong list when removed by one of the .suspend() callbacks (and I don't
see how to avoid that without extra complexity).  Perhaps that's something we
can live with, though.

One more question: is there any particular reason not to call
device_pm_remove() at the beginning of device_del()?

Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-07 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-05 18:36 [PATCH] PM: Acquire device locks on suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-05 20:08 ` Alan Stern
2008-01-05 20:19   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-05 20:39     ` Alan Stern
2008-01-05 21:13       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-05 21:41         ` Alan Stern
2008-01-05 21:58           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06  4:04             ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 13:19               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 17:06                 ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 19:05                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 19:57                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 22:19                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 22:21                       ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 22:34                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 22:39                           ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 22:47                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                               ` <49505.::ffff:91.5.86.36.1199663162.squirrel@secure.sipsolutions.net>
2008-01-06 23:59                                 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-07  0:49                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-07 16:16                               ` Alan Stern
2008-01-07 16:51                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-07 17:23                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-01-07 18:01                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2008-01-07 19:29                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-01-07 20:37                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-07 21:32                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-01-08  0:25                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-09 21:01                                               ` Alan Stern
2008-01-09 22:14                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-09 22:46                                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-01-09 23:29                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-10 15:35                                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-01-10 16:59                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-10 17:04                                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 22:11                     ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 22:24                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 22:31                         ` Alan Stern

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