Re: [patch 7/9] unprivileged mounts: allow unprivileged fuse mounts

[Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>]

On Tue 2008-01-08 23:42:20, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > On Tue 2008-01-08 12:35:09, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > From: Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@suse.cz>
> > > 
> > > Use FS_SAFE for "fuse" fs type, but not for "fuseblk".
> > > 
> > > FUSE was designed from the beginning to be safe for unprivileged users.  This
> > > has also been verified in practice over many years.  In addition unprivileged
> > 
> > Eh? So 'kill -9 no longer works' and 'suspend no longer works' is not
> > considered important enough to even mention?
> 
> No.  Because in practice they don't seem to matter.  Also because
> there's no way in which fuse could be done differently to address
> these issues.
> 
> The 'kill -9' thing is basically due to VFS level locking not being
> interruptible.  It could be changed, but I'm not sure it's worth it.

Well, I believe it should be changed. "You need to mount /sys, then
echo X to Y before kill -9 works" does not look nice... I agree it is
not easy.

> > 'updatedb no longer works' is not a problem?
> 
> I haven't seen any problems with updatedb, and haven't had any bug
> reports about it either.

Ok, I don't know much about FUSE. In current version, if user creates
infinite maze and mounts it under ~, updatedb just does not enter it?

> AFAIR there were two security vulnerabilities in fuse's history, one
> of them an information leak in the kernel module, and the other one an
> mtab corruption issue in the fusermount utility.  I don't think this
> is such a bad track record.

Not bad indeed. But I'd consider 'kill -9 not working' to be DoS
vulnerability... and I'm woried about problems fuse + user mounts
expose in other parts of system.
									Pavel
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