From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Venki Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
suresh.b.siddha@intel.com, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: CPA patchset
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:22:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080110122204.GA25129@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080110110704.GQ25945@bingen.suse.de>
* Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> wrote:
> > What is very real though are the hard limitations of MTRRs. So i'd
> > rather first like to see a clean PAT approach (which all other
> > modern OSs have already migrated to in the past 10 years)
>
> That's mostly orthogonal. Don't know why you bring it up now?
because the PAT (Page Attribute Table support) patchset and the CPA
(change_page_attr()) patchset are are not orthogonal at all - as their
name already signals: because they change the implementation/effects of
the same interface(s). [just at different levels].
Both patchsets change how the kernel pagetable caching is handled. PAT
changes the kernel pte details and unshackles us from MTRR reliance and
thus solves real problems on real boxes:
55 files changed, 1288 insertions(+), 237 deletions(-)
CPA moves change_page_attr() from invwb flushing to cflush flushing, for
a speedup/latency-win, plus a whole bunch of intermingled fixes and
improvements to page attribute modification:
26 files changed, 882 insertions(+), 423 deletions(-)
so in terms of risk management, the "perfect patch order" is:
- minimal_set of correctness fixes to the highlevel cpa code.
- ( then any provably NOP cleanups to pave the way. )
- then change the lowlevel pte code (PAT) to reduce/eliminate the need
to have runtime MTRR use
- then structural improvements/cleanups of the highlevel cpa code
- then the cflush (optional) performance feature ontop of it.
- then gigabyte-largepages/TLBs support [new CPU feature that further
complicates page-attribute management]
All in an easy-to-revert fashion. We _will_ regress here, and this stuff
is very hard to debug.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-10 12:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-03 15:24 [PATCH CPA] [1/28] Shrink __PAGE_KERNEL/__PAGE_KERNEL_EXEC on non PAE kernels Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [2/28] CPA: Do a simple self test at boot Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [3/28] Add pte accessors for the global bit Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [4/28] Add pte_clrhuge on i386 Andi Kleen
2008-01-05 6:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [5/28] Add pte_pgprot " Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [6/28] CPA: Undo white space changes Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [7/28] Extract page table dumping code from i386 fault handler into dump_pagetable() Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [8/28] CPA: Return the page table level in lookup_address() Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [9/28] CPA: Add simple self test at boot Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [10/28] CPA: Change kernel_map_pages to not use c_p_a() Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [11/28] CPA: Change 32bit back to init_mm semaphore locking Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [12/28] CPA: CLFLUSH support in change_page_attr() Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [13/28] CPA: Use macros to modify the PG_arch_1 page flags in change_page_attr Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [14/28] CPA: Use page granuality TLB flushing " Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [15/28] CPA: Don't flush the caches when the CPU supports self-snoop Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [16/28] CPA: Use wbinvd() macro instead of inline assembly in 64bit c_p_a() Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [17/28] CPA: Reorder TLB / cache flushes to follow Intel recommendation Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [18/28] CPA: Make change_page_attr() more robust against use of PAT bits Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [19/28] CPA: Limit cache flushing to pages that really change caching Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [20/28] CPA: Fix inaccurate comments in 64bit change_page_attr() Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [21/28] CPA: Dump pagetable when inconsistency is detected Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [22/28] CPA: Only queue actually unused page table pages for freeing Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [23/28] CPA: Remove unnecessary masking of address Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [24/28] CPA: Only unmap kernel init pages in text mapping when CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA is set Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [25/28] CPA: Always do full TLB flush when splitting large pages Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [26/28] CPA: Fix reference counting when changing already changed pages Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [27/28] CPA: Change comments of external interfaces to kerneldoc format Andi Kleen
2008-01-03 15:24 ` [PATCH CPA] [28/28] Make kernel_text test match boot mapping initialization Andi Kleen
2008-01-10 9:31 ` CPA patchset Ingo Molnar
2008-01-10 9:44 ` Dave Airlie
2008-01-10 9:55 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-10 10:20 ` Dave Airlie
2008-01-10 10:50 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-10 10:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-10 9:53 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-10 10:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-10 10:07 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-10 10:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-10 11:12 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-11 7:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11 7:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11 11:28 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-11 11:26 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-11 17:02 ` dean gaudet
2008-01-11 17:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-11 17:56 ` dean gaudet
2008-01-10 10:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-10 11:07 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-10 12:22 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-01-10 12:39 ` Andi Kleen
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