From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759943AbYAKKmd (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:42:33 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756218AbYAKKmI (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:42:08 -0500 Received: from pip15.gyao.ne.jp ([61.122.117.253]:33193 "EHLO mx.gate01.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755860AbYAKKmG (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:42:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:41:44 +0900 From: Paul Mundt To: Ralf Baechle Cc: Adrian Bunk , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL Message-ID: <20080111104144.GA31709@linux-sh.org> Mail-Followup-To: Paul Mundt , Ralf Baechle , Adrian Bunk , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20080101134809.GK2360@does.not.exist> <20080110221845.GB20875@linux-mips.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080110221845.GB20875@linux-mips.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:18:45PM +0000, Ralf Baechle wrote: > On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 03:48:09PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Definately NAK for the MIPS segments. Some of the EXPERIMENTAL > dependencies should be removed but many options tagged with EXPERIMENTAL > are still dangerous. > Likewise for the SH portions. EXPERIMENTAL in these places really does mean EXPERIMENTAL. BROKEN has very different meanings, as does silently promoting the offending options to !EXPERIMENTAL. While EXPERIMENTAL in drivers/ might not have any real meaning, most of the examples listed for arch/ have been intentional, and I'd wager that most arch maintainers used it both carefully and intentionally. There's no reason to punish arch/ for the transgressions of drivers/. If enough subsystems switch off of EXPERIMENTAL and use a subsystem-specific EXPERIMENTAL option, then perhaps we can reclaim EXPERIMENTAL to actually mean what it's supposed to, without worrying about people just turning it on to get at all of their missing driver options.