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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
Cc: Pierre Ossman <drzeus@drzeus.cx>, Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
	Ondrej Zary <linux@rainbow-software.org>,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
	ALSA development <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] PNP_DRIVER_RES_DISABLE breaks swsusp at least with snd_cs4236
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:08:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801122008.10313.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4788F226.7040101@keyaccess.nl>

On Saturday, 12 of January 2008, Rene Herman wrote:
> On 12-01-08 16:21, Pierre Ossman wrote:
> 
> > Ah, sorry. It was a different thread. Look for a mail with the subject 
> > "PNP: do not stop/start devices in suspend/resume path" in the LKML och 
> > linux-pm archives.
> 
> Right, and I see that the removal of start/stop is already in -mm. That's 
> not going to work. Something (such as removing power) disabled Ondrej's 
> CS4236 and the pnp_start_dev() is needed to re-enable it upon resume.
> 
> >> But we certainly need the pnp_start_dev() in the current flow of
> >> things. It not being called is the problem this fixes...
> > 
> > I think the previous suggestion was that the drivers should call this,
> > not the core, so that it behaved more like other parts of the kernel
> > (e.g. PCI).
> 
> It seems all PnP drivers would need to stick a pnp_start_dev in their resume 
> method

Yes.

> then which means it really belongs in core.

Yes, if practical.

> One important point where PnP and PCI differ is that PnP allows to change the
> resources on a protocol level and I don't see how it could ever not be
> necessary to restore the state a user may have set if power has been
> removed. Hibernate is just that, isn't it?

Basically, yes, it is.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-12 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-09 22:43 PNP_DRIVER_RES_DISABLE breaks swsusp at least with snd_cs4236 Ondrej Zary
2008-01-10  1:53 ` [alsa-devel] " Rene Herman
2008-01-10  7:58   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-01-11  1:19     ` Rene Herman
2008-01-11  7:01       ` Pierre Ossman
2008-01-11 14:21         ` Rene Herman
2008-01-11 18:40           ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-12  1:23             ` Rene Herman
2008-01-12 11:12               ` Pierre Ossman
2008-01-12 13:39                 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-12 15:21                   ` Pierre Ossman
2008-01-12 16:46                     ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-12 17:00                     ` Rene Herman
2008-01-12 19:08                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2008-01-12 20:08                         ` -mm: pnp-do-not-stop-start-devices-in-suspend-resume-path.patch breaks resuming isapnp cards Rene Herman
2008-01-13  5:50                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-01-13  6:13                             ` Rene Herman
2008-01-14 22:26                               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-01-14 23:46                                 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-15  7:51                                 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-01-16 17:46                                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-01-16 18:03                                     ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-16 18:16                                     ` Rene Herman
2008-01-12 19:01                   ` [alsa-devel] PNP_DRIVER_RES_DISABLE breaks swsusp at least with snd_cs4236 Rafael J. Wysocki

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