From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
"K. Prasad" <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org,
dipankar@in.ibm.com, ego@in.ibm.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Markers Implementation for Preempt RCU Boost Tracing
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:07:41 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080113180740.GA4435@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080107185954.GA16041@Krystal>
On Mon 2008-01-07 13:59:54, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Ingo Molnar (mingo@elte.hu) wrote:
> >
> > * Frank Ch. Eigler <fche@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > [...] this is a general policy matter. It is _so much easier_ to add
> > > > markers if they _can_ have near-zero overhead (as in 1-2
> > > > instructions). Otherwise we'll keep arguing about it, especially if
> > > > any is added to performance-critical codepath. (where we are
> > > > counting instructions)
> > >
> > > The effect of the immediate-values patch, combined with gcc
> > > CFLAGS+=-freorder-blocks, *is* to keep the overhead at 1-2
> > > dcache-impact-free instructions. The register saves, parameter
> > > evaluation, the function call, can all be moved out of line.
> >
> > well, -freorder-blocks seems to be default-enabled at -O2 on gcc 4.2, so
> > we should already be getting that, right?
> >
> > There's one thing that would make out-of-line tracepoints have a lot
> > less objectionable to me: right now the 'out of line' area is put to the
> > end of functions. That splinters the kernel image with inactive, rarely
> > taken areas of code - blowing up its icache footprint considerably. For
> > example sched.o has ~100 functions, with the average function size being
> > 200 bytes. At 64 bytes L1 cacheline size that's a 10-20% icache waste
> > already.
>
> Hrm, I agree this can be a problem on architectures with more standard
> associative icaches, but aren't most x86_64 machines (and modern x86_32)
> using an instruction trace cache instead ? This makes the problem
> irrelevant.
>
> But I agree that, as Frank proposed, -freorder-blocks-and-partition
> could help us in that matter for the architectures using an associative
> L1 icache.
I thought trace cache died with P4?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-14 14:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-31 6:09 [PATCH 2/2] Markers Implementation for Preempt RCU Boost Tracing K. Prasad
2007-12-31 10:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-02 3:31 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-01-02 12:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-02 16:33 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-01-02 17:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-02 17:56 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-01-02 20:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-07 18:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-01-13 18:07 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2008-01-14 15:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-01-14 16:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-14 19:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-01-02 23:49 ` Nicholas Miell
2008-01-03 19:24 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-01-03 16:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-01-04 10:58 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-01-05 12:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-01-07 19:43 ` K. Prasad
2008-01-07 19:50 ` [PATCH 0/2] Markers Implementation for RCU Tracing - Ver II K. Prasad
2008-02-18 12:21 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-02-18 12:47 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-02-18 19:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-02-18 20:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-19 16:27 ` Markers: multi-probe locking fun (was: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Markers Implementation for RCU Tracing - Ver II) Jan Kiszka
2008-02-19 20:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-19 22:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-02-19 22:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-19 21:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-02-19 22:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-19 22:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-01-07 19:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] Markers Implementation for RCU Preempt Tracing - Ver II K. Prasad
2008-01-07 19:56 ` [PATCH 2/2] Markers Implementation for Preempt RCU Boost " K. Prasad
2008-01-04 12:09 ` __get_cpu_var() called from a preempt-unsafe context in __rcu_preempt_unboost() ? Gautham R Shenoy
2008-01-04 13:48 ` Steven Rostedt
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-11-29 18:46 [PATCH 2/2] Markers Implementation for Preempt RCU Boost Tracing K. Prasad
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