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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
	"K. Prasad" <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com, ego@in.ibm.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Markers Implementation for Preempt RCU Boost Tracing
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:07:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080113180740.GA4435@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080107185954.GA16041@Krystal>

On Mon 2008-01-07 13:59:54, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Ingo Molnar (mingo@elte.hu) wrote:
> > 
> > * Frank Ch. Eigler <fche@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > [...] this is a general policy matter. It is _so much easier_ to add 
> > > > markers if they _can_ have near-zero overhead (as in 1-2 
> > > > instructions). Otherwise we'll keep arguing about it, especially if 
> > > > any is added to performance-critical codepath. (where we are 
> > > > counting instructions)
> > > 
> > > The effect of the immediate-values patch, combined with gcc 
> > > CFLAGS+=-freorder-blocks, *is* to keep the overhead at 1-2 
> > > dcache-impact-free instructions.  The register saves, parameter 
> > > evaluation, the function call, can all be moved out of line.
> > 
> > well, -freorder-blocks seems to be default-enabled at -O2 on gcc 4.2, so 
> > we should already be getting that, right?
> > 
> > There's one thing that would make out-of-line tracepoints have a lot 
> > less objectionable to me: right now the 'out of line' area is put to the 
> > end of functions. That splinters the kernel image with inactive, rarely 
> > taken areas of code - blowing up its icache footprint considerably. For 
> > example sched.o has ~100 functions, with the average function size being 
> > 200 bytes. At 64 bytes L1 cacheline size that's a 10-20% icache waste 
> > already.
> 
> Hrm, I agree this can be a problem on architectures with more standard
> associative icaches, but aren't most x86_64 machines (and modern x86_32)
> using an instruction trace cache instead ? This makes the problem
> irrelevant.
> 
> But I agree that, as Frank proposed, -freorder-blocks-and-partition
> could help us in that matter for the architectures using an associative
> L1 icache.

I thought trace cache died with P4?
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-14 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-31  6:09 [PATCH 2/2] Markers Implementation for Preempt RCU Boost Tracing K. Prasad
2007-12-31 10:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-02  3:31   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-01-02 12:47     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-02 16:33       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-01-02 17:01         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-02 17:56           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-01-02 20:10             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-07 18:59           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-01-13 18:07             ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2008-01-14 15:35               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-01-14 16:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-14 19:36                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-01-02 23:49         ` Nicholas Miell
2008-01-03 19:24   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-01-03 16:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-01-04 10:58   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-01-05 12:46     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-01-07 19:43       ` K. Prasad
2008-01-07 19:50       ` [PATCH 0/2] Markers Implementation for RCU Tracing - Ver II K. Prasad
2008-02-18 12:21         ` Jan Kiszka
2008-02-18 12:47         ` Jan Kiszka
2008-02-18 19:48           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-02-18 20:41             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-19 16:27             ` Markers: multi-probe locking fun (was: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Markers Implementation for RCU Tracing - Ver II) Jan Kiszka
2008-02-19 20:33               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-19 22:18                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-02-19 22:32                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-19 21:54               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-02-19 22:03                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-19 22:19                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-01-07 19:55       ` [PATCH 1/2] Markers Implementation for RCU Preempt Tracing - Ver II K. Prasad
2008-01-07 19:56       ` [PATCH 2/2] Markers Implementation for Preempt RCU Boost " K. Prasad
2008-01-04 12:09   ` __get_cpu_var() called from a preempt-unsafe context in __rcu_preempt_unboost() ? Gautham R Shenoy
2008-01-04 13:48     ` Steven Rostedt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-11-29 18:46 [PATCH 2/2] Markers Implementation for Preempt RCU Boost Tracing K. Prasad

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