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From: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
To: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Michael Rubin <mrubin@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/13] writeback: requeue_io() on redirtied inode
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:13:07 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080116081307.GX155407@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080115124801.430525129@mail.ustc.edu.cn>

On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 08:36:46PM +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> Redirtied inodes could be seen in really fast writes.
> They should really be synced as soon as possible.
> 
> redirty_tail() could delay the inode for up to 30s.
> Kill the delay by using requeue_io() instead.

That's actually bad for anything that does delayed allocation
or updates state on data I/o completion.

e.g. XFS when writing past EOF doing delalloc dirties the inode
during writeout (allocation) and then updates the file size on data
I/o completion hence dirtying the inode again.

With this change, writing the last pages out would result
in hitting this code and causing the inode to be flushed very
soon after the data write. Then, after the inode write is issued,
we get data I/o completion which dirties the inode again,
resulting in needing to write the inode again to clean it.
i.e. it introduces a potential new and useless inode write
I/O.

Also, the immediate inode write may be useless for XFS because the
inode may be pinned in memory due to async transactions
still in flight (e.g. from delalloc) so we've got two
situations where flushing the inode immediately is suboptimal.

Hence I don't think this is an optimisation that should be made
in the generic writeback code.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
Principal Engineer
SGI Australian Software Group

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-16  8:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080115123637.518924046@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2008-01-15 12:36 ` [PATCH 00/13] writeback bug fixes and simplifications take 2 Fengguang Wu
2008-01-15 18:33   ` Michael Rubin
     [not found]     ` <E1JExrc-00014E-FC@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-16  2:18       ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-18  7:51   ` Michael Rubin
     [not found]     ` <E1JFmZs-0000wa-3r@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-18  8:27       ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20080115124758.142052041@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2008-01-15 12:36   ` [PATCH 01/13] writeback: revert 2e6883bdf49abd0e7f0d9b6297fc3be7ebb2250b Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20080115124758.559626681@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2008-01-15 12:36   ` [PATCH 02/13] writeback: clear PAGECACHE_TAG_DIRTY for truncated page in block_write_full_page() Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20080115124758.972567524@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2008-01-15 12:36   ` [PATCH 03/13] writeback: introduce writeback_control.more_io Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20080115124759.398587485@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2008-01-15 12:36   ` [PATCH 04/13] writeback: introduce super_block.s_more_io_wait Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20080115124759.770126448@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2008-01-15 12:36   ` [PATCH 05/13] writeback: merge duplicate code into writeback_some_pages() Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20080115124800.190056249@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2008-01-15 12:36   ` [PATCH 06/13] writeback: defer writeback on not-all-pages-written Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20080115124800.602843975@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2008-01-15 12:36   ` [PATCH 07/13] writeback: defer writeback on locked inode Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20080115124801.012754821@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2008-01-15 12:36   ` [PATCH 08/13] writeback: defer writeback on locked buffers Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20080115124801.430525129@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2008-01-15 12:36   ` [PATCH 09/13] writeback: requeue_io() on redirtied inode Fengguang Wu
2008-01-16  8:13   ` David Chinner [this message]
     [not found]     ` <E1JFMH1-0001xA-L1@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-17  4:22       ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20080115124801.800688912@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2008-01-15 12:36   ` [PATCH 10/13] writeback: introduce queue_dirty() Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20080115124802.215191468@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2008-01-15 12:36   ` [PATCH 11/13] writeback: queue_dirty() on memory-backed bdi Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20080115124802.624775214@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2008-01-15 12:36   ` [PATCH 12/13] writeback: remove redirty_tail() Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20080115124803.025520828@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2008-01-15 12:36   ` [PATCH 13/13] writeback: cleanup __sync_single_inode() Fengguang Wu

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