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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Kyle McMartin <kyle@mcmartin.ca>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: make clflush a required feature on x86_64
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:18:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080118141839.GA16738@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4790B01B.8020406@zytor.com>

On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 08:56:43AM -0500, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Andi Kleen wrote:
> >>Simulators can be fixed, 
> >
> >They could, but why? I don't know of a good reason to require CLFLUSH.
> 
> Well, simulators are generally expected to follow the architecture, not 
> vice versa.  I would tend to agree with the coupling that recent 
> versions of Bochs appeared to have made here -- I think we're unlikely 
> to see any processors with sse2 sans clflush, so keeping code branches 
> in which will never be executed seems like a bad idea in the long term. 

Here's another argument: Ingo just asked me to add a noclflush option
to the code. Guess what check that option will need? 

Besides compared to the cost of a flushing clflush the branches are absolutely 
in the noise.

-Andi

      reply	other threads:[~2008-01-18 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-18  4:59 [PATCH] x86: make clflush a required feature on x86_64 Kyle McMartin
2008-01-18  5:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-18  5:25   ` [PATCH] x86_64: remove redundant cpu_has_ definitions Kyle McMartin
2008-01-18  8:07     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-18  5:53 ` [PATCH] x86: make clflush a required feature on x86_64 Andi Kleen
2008-01-18  6:01   ` Kyle McMartin
2008-01-18  6:27     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-11 18:16       ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-18  6:54       ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-18 13:56         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-18 14:18           ` Andi Kleen [this message]

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