From: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com, dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, ebiederm@xmission.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, sgrubb@redhat.com,
rostedt@goodmis.org, ghaskins@novell.com,
dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com, tong.n.li@intel.com,
tglx@linutronix.de, menage@google.com, rientjes@google.com
Subject: Re: scheduler scalability - cgroups, cpusets and load-balancing
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 06:03:55 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080129060355.7d38338f.pj@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1201606284.28547.114.camel@lappy>
Paul, responding to Peter:
> > We now have a per-cpuset Boolean flag file called 'sched_load_balance'.
>
> SD_LOAD_BALANCE, right?
No. SD_LOAD_BALANCE is some attribute of sched domains.
The 'sched_load_balance' flag is an attribute of cpusets.
The mapping of cpusets to sched domains required several pages of 'fun
to write' code, which had to go through a couple of years of fixing and
one major rewrite before it (knock on wood) worked correctly. It's not
a one-to-one relation, in other words. See my earlier messages for
further explanation of how this works.
I'm not sure what SD_LOAD_BALANCE does ... I guess from a quick
read that it just optimizes the recognition of singleton sched
domains for which load balancing would be a wasted effort.
> > This 'sched_load_balance' flag is, thus far, "the" cpuset hook
> > supporting realtime. One can use it to configure a system so that
> > the kernel does not do normal load balancing on select CPUs, such
> > as those CPUs dedicated to realtime use.
>
> Ah, here I disagree, it is possible to do (hard) realtime scheduling
> over multiple cpus, the only draw back is that it requires a very strong
> load-balancer, making it unsuitable for large number of cpus.
I don't think we are disagreeing. I was speaking of "normal"
load balancing (what the mainline kernel/sched.c code normally
does). You're speaking of hard realtime load balancing.
I think we agree that these both exist, and require different
load balancing code, the latter 'very strong.'
--
I won't rest till it's the best ...
Programmer, Linux Scalability
Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com> 1.940.382.4214
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-29 12:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-29 9:53 scheduler scalability - cgroups, cpusets and load-balancing Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-29 10:01 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 10:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-29 11:13 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 11:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-29 11:53 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 12:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-29 12:36 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 12:03 ` Paul Jackson [this message]
2008-01-29 12:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-29 12:52 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 13:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-29 10:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-29 11:30 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 11:34 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 11:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-29 12:12 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 15:57 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-01-29 16:33 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 15:50 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-01-29 16:51 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 17:21 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-01-29 19:04 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 20:36 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-01-29 21:02 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 21:07 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-01-29 15:36 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-01-29 16:28 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 16:42 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-01-29 19:37 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 20:28 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-01-29 20:56 ` Paul Jackson
2008-01-29 21:02 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-01-29 22:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-01-29 12:32 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2008-01-29 12:21 ` Paul Jackson
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