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From: Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	containers@lists.osdl.org, Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>,
	pj@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Default child of a cgroup
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:10:26 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080201034026.GA12475@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830801311839x33cf2ebco9f501571fc129b11@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 06:39:56PM -0800, Paul Menage wrote:
> On Jan 30, 2008 6:40 PM, Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > Here are some questions that arise in this picture:
> >
> > 1. What is the relationship of the task-group in A/tasks with the
> >    task-group in A/a1/tasks? In otherwords do they form siblings
> >    of the same parent A?
> 
> I'd argue the same as Balbir - tasks in A/tasks are are children of A
> and are siblings of a1, a2, etc.
> 
> >
> > 2. Somewhat related to the above question, how much resource should the
> >    task-group A/a1/tasks get in relation to A/tasks? Is it 1/2 of parent
> >    A's share or 1/(1 + N) of parent A's share (where N = number of tasks
> >    in A/tasks)?
> 
> Each process in A should have a scheduler weight that's derived from
> its static_prio field. Similarly each subgroup of A will have a
> scheduler weight that's determined by its cpu.shares value. So the cpu
> share of any child (be it a task or a subgroup) would be equal to its
> own weight divided by the sum of weights of all children.
> 
> So yes, if a task in A forks lots of children, those children could
> end up getting a disproportionate amount of the CPU compared to tasks
> in A/a1 - but that's the same as the situation without cgroups. If you
> want to control cpu usage between different sets of processes in A,
> they should be in sibling cgroups, not directly in A.
> 
> Is there a restriction in CFS that stops a given group from
> simultaneously holding tasks and sub-groups? If so, couldn't we change
> CFS to make it possible rather than enforcing awkward restructions on
> cgroups?
> 
> If we really can't change CFS in that way, then an alternative would
> be similar to Peter's suggestion - make cpu_cgroup_can_attach() fail
> if the cgroup has children, and make cpu_cgroup_create() fail if the
> cgroup has any tasks - that way you limit the restriction to just the
> hierarchy that has CFS attached to it, rather than generically for all
> cgroups
> 
> BTW, I noticed this code in cpu_cgroup_create():
> 
>         /* we support only 1-level deep hierarchical scheduler atm */
>         if (cgrp->parent->parent)
>                 return ERR_PTR(-EINVAL);
> 
> Is anyone working on allowing more levels?
> 

Yes, I am looking at it.

> Paul

-- 
regards,
Dhaval

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-01  3:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-31  2:40 [RFC] Default child of a cgroup Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2008-01-31 17:44 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-01-31 18:09 ` Balbir Singh
2008-01-31 20:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-01  4:16     ` Dhaval Giani
2008-02-01  3:53   ` Dhaval Giani
2008-01-31 21:13 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-02-01  2:39 ` Paul Menage
2008-02-01  3:32   ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-01  3:40   ` Dhaval Giani [this message]
2008-02-01  7:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-01 15:35     ` Paul Menage
2008-02-01  8:19   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri

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