From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
Cc: Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Jeff Chua <jeff.chua.linux@gmail.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
suspend-devel List <suspend-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
Subject: Re: 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green.
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:13:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080221001357.GA29796@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47BCAD6E.9080704@nigel.suspend2.net>
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 09:45:02AM +1100, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> - people keep talking about hibernating to an ext3 fs mounted on fuse as
> a limitation of the freezer. To do that with kexec, you're still going
> to have to bmap the ext3 fs and pass the block list (in which case we
> can also do it without kexec) or umount all the ext3/fuse part and
> remount in the kexec'd kernel. Sort of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
No, with a freezer-based model you can basically *never* suspend to
anything related to FUSE or a userspace USB device or anything involving
userspace iSCSI initiators or whatever. Sure, there are cases where
moving away from the current model doesn't buy you anything, but that
doesn't mean that the current model is a good thing. It's not. The
freezer is a fundamentally broken concept.
> I also wonder about how much of a pain it's going to be setting up
> userspace for this kexec'd kernel. Will you need a separate partition
> just for it? If not, will the userspace be loaded into memory all the
> time (more memory wasted for normal use), or loaded from ordinary
> partitions at kexec time (how to do safely? - more info to transfer
> between kernels?).
You're looking at a tiny amount of memory when compared to current
systems. It's really not a problem.
--
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-21 0:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-20 17:17 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 17:19 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 17:37 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 18:02 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 19:43 ` [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off aftersuspend-to-disk. " Romano Giannetti
2008-02-21 21:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 0:20 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 0:23 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 0:42 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 0:46 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 0:52 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 1:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 1:27 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 1:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-22 1:35 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 10:37 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-02-22 13:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-22 16:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-22 18:01 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-02-23 11:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-22 0:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 0:42 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 1:01 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 1:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 0:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-22 0:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 1:13 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 1:44 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 23:31 ` i915 hibernation patch (was: Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off aftersuspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green.) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-23 1:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-23 1:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-23 2:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-23 4:36 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-23 18:13 ` [PATCH] PM: Introduce PM_EVENT_HIBERNATE (was: Re: i915 hibernation patch (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer ...)) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-23 18:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-24 8:29 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-24 15:21 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-24 4:16 ` Mirco Tischler
2008-02-24 11:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 11:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-23 11:17 ` i915 hibernation patch (was: Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off aftersuspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green.) Pavel Machek
2008-02-20 17:54 ` 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 18:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-18 6:31 ` [Suspend-devel] " Pavel Machek
2008-02-20 18:49 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 19:25 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-02-20 18:57 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 17:50 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 18:29 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 18:53 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 19:10 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 19:18 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 20:09 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 20:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 20:33 ` [Suspend-devel] " Pablo Sanchez
2008-02-20 20:41 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 21:44 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 22:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-21 8:30 ` david
2008-02-22 16:56 ` Mark Lord
2008-02-22 17:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 17:32 ` Mark Lord
2008-02-22 17:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 19:23 ` david
2008-02-22 23:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 22:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 23:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 0:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-21 0:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 0:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-21 0:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 16:54 ` Mark Lord
2008-02-20 22:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-21 0:13 ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2008-02-21 0:40 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-21 0:46 ` Greg KH
2008-02-21 1:17 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-21 4:43 ` Greg KH
2008-02-21 6:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-21 6:37 ` Greg KH
2008-02-21 1:10 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-02-21 1:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-20 20:45 ` [Suspend-devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 21:26 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-02-20 21:37 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 0:35 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 0:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 1:19 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 1:21 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 1:49 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 2:00 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 16:27 ` [Suspend-devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 18:34 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 20:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 22:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 23:45 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 0:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 0:48 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 22:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 23:03 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 23:34 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 23:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 0:17 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 1:07 ` [Suspend-devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 18:47 ` Mark Lord
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-02-20 0:53 Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 1:00 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 1:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 2:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 4:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 6:19 ` Jeff Chua
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