From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Bill Huey (hui)" <bill.huey@gmail.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
mingo@elte.hu, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, tglx@linutronix.de,
rostedt@goodmis.org, linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kevin@hilman.org,
cminyard@mvista.com, dsingleton@mvista.com, dwalker@mvista.com,
npiggin@suse.de, dsaxena@plexity.net, gregkh@suse.de,
sdietrich@novell.com, pmorreale@novell.com, mkohari@novell.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH [RT] 08/14] add a loop counter based timeout mechanism
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:43:41 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080222194341.GE11213@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9810cff90802221121s216f69f4k4a5f39eaaf11dd7f@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:21:14AM -0800, Bill Huey (hui) wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Bill Huey (hui) <bill.huey@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, I'm not very keen on having a constant there without some
> > contention instrumentation to see how long the spins are. It would be
> > better to just let it run until either task->on_cpu is off or checking
> > if the "current" in no longer matches the mutex owner for the runqueue
> > in question. At that point, you know the thread isn't running.
> > Spinning on something like that is just a waste of time. It's for that
> > reason that doing in the spin outside of a preempt critical section
> > isn't really needed
>
> Excuse me, I meant to say "...isn't a problem".
The fixed-time spins are very useful in cases where the critical section
is almost always very short but can sometimes be very long. In such
cases, you would want to spin until either ownership changes or it is
apparent that the current critical-section instance will be long.
I believe that there are locks in the Linux kernel that have this
"mostly short but sometimes long" hold-time property.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-22 19:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-21 15:26 [PATCH [RT] 00/14] RFC - adaptive real-time locks Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 15:26 ` [PATCH [RT] 01/14] spinlocks: fix preemption feature when PREEMPT_RT is enabled Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 15:26 ` [PATCH [RT] 02/14] spinlock: make preemptible-waiter feature a specific config option Gregory Haskins
2008-02-22 19:09 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-21 15:26 ` [PATCH [RT] 03/14] x86: FIFO ticket spinlocks Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 15:26 ` [PATCH [RT] 04/14] disable PREEMPT_SPINLOCK_WAITERS when x86 ticket/fifo spins are in use Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 15:26 ` [PATCH [RT] 05/14] rearrange rt_spin_lock sleep Gregory Haskins
2008-02-22 13:29 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-02-22 13:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-02-22 13:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-22 13:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-22 13:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-02-22 13:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-02-21 15:26 ` [PATCH [RT] 06/14] optimize rt lock wakeup Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 15:27 ` [PATCH [RT] 07/14] adaptive real-time lock support Gregory Haskins
2008-02-22 19:14 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-21 15:27 ` [PATCH [RT] 08/14] add a loop counter based timeout mechanism Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 16:41 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-21 17:02 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 17:04 ` Peter W. Morreale
2008-02-21 17:06 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2008-02-22 19:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-02-22 19:19 ` Bill Huey (hui)
2008-02-22 19:21 ` Bill Huey (hui)
2008-02-22 19:43 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2008-02-22 19:55 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2008-02-22 20:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-02-22 22:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-02-23 12:31 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-23 16:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-02-25 23:52 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2008-02-22 20:36 ` Peter W. Morreale
2008-02-23 7:36 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2008-02-22 20:15 ` Peter W. Morreale
2008-02-21 15:27 ` [PATCH [RT] 09/14] adaptive mutexes Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 15:27 ` [PATCH [RT] 10/14] adjust pi_lock usage in wakeup Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 16:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-02-21 17:09 ` Peter W. Morreale
2008-02-21 15:27 ` [PATCH [RT] 11/14] optimize the !printk fastpath through the lock acquisition Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 16:36 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-21 16:47 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-02-22 19:18 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-22 22:20 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-02-23 0:43 ` Bill Huey (hui)
2008-02-25 5:20 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-02-25 6:21 ` Bill Huey (hui)
2008-02-25 9:02 ` Bill Huey (hui)
2008-02-21 15:27 ` [PATCH [RT] 12/14] remove the extra call to try_to_take_lock Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 15:27 ` [PATCH [RT] 13/14] allow rt-mutex lock-stealing to include lateral priority Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 15:27 ` [PATCH [RT] 14/14] sysctl for runtime-control of lateral mutex stealing Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 16:05 ` [PATCH [RT] 00/14] RFC - adaptive real-time locks Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 21:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-21 21:33 ` Bill Huey (hui)
[not found] ` <20080221214219.GA27209@elte.hu>
2008-02-21 21:56 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 22:53 ` Bill Huey (hui)
2008-02-21 21:40 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-02-21 22:12 ` Peter W. Morreale
2008-02-21 22:42 ` Peter W. Morreale
2008-02-23 8:03 ` Andrew Morton
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